Planned Parenthood

[catlover]

Abortion is the leading cause in some countries too. Anything can be dangerous if you don't handle it properly. And I've yet to see you provide a source. You don't tell someone "GO LOOK THIS UP". You do it yourself and then show me. You haven't even given me a number just a broad spectrum.

If I decided that my dog was dangerous and then had it put down, long before it actually did anything too me or showed it's fangs, I would be called paranoid and probably get a few animal enthusiasts on me. Why should pregnant women get special treatment for being paranoid when regular people don't? The dog was my property. The dog wasn't human. Isn't that basically the same? But I won't see pro-choice people coming to my hearing to defend me while I'm being prosecuted for cruelty to animals will I? I should look up and find a story like that too.

Your dog showing it's teeth cannot be compared to a woman dying in child birth. In fact it is a very callous comparison when it's a reality around the globe.

Around half a million women die annually before, during or shortly after giving birth - and almost all of these deaths occur in developing countries.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7049598.stm


Another obstacle to reducing levels of maternal mortality has, arguably, been the increasing influence of ideology and faith on health policy, particularly in the US.

 

[catlover]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21272668/
As many women dying in childbirth as in 1990
1 in 26 chance that girls in Africa won't survive pregnancy, report finds

 

[catlover]

Population Action International (PAI) launched a report of its findings at the October Women Deliver conference that reads in part; "pregnancy and childbirth are deadly to more than half a million women worldwide every year. These women are typically poor, uneducated and living in rural areas or urban slums".

http://allafrica.com/stories/200712310667.html

 

[FaithLikeARock]

Your dog showing it's teeth cannot be compared to a woman dying in child birth. In fact it is a very callous comparison when it's a reality around the globe.

Around half a million women die annually before, during or shortly after giving birth - and almost all of these deaths occur in developing countries.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7049598.stm


Another obstacle to reducing levels of maternal mortality has, arguably, been the increasing influence of ideology and faith on health policy, particularly in the US.

You obviously didn't understand the comparison. And the reason it happens in most developed country should be a red light that PREGNANCY, in most cases, is not the danger. The technology is the danger, biological problems. Pregnancy is natural. It's something that humanity needs to survive. Abortion is not. The world would not end if abortion never existed in fact it might be better because that's one less issue to rip us apart.

Like I said, the statistics that pregnancy can lead to death, is a cop out. Do you think it's surprising? Do you think it means anything? People die from every possible cause. More people die from driving on the street in one year in ONE country than women die from giving birth but we're not going to stop driving. A half a million. There are BILLIONS of child-able women in the world. A half a million is NOT a lot of people compared to that. And there are 6 million abortions every year in the United States alone. So what's you're point? It's an excuse. Trying to point the finger. Trying to say "Look see, pregnancy is dangerous" when in fact in those SAME developing countries, abortion is JUST as dangerous. Being pro-choice, you don't care about the danger. That's pro-life. Pro-choice means you should be concentrating on both the abortion and the pregnancy mortality rates. Because otherwise you may be giving women the choice but it's not a very fair choice. A women who reads what you're talking about is only getting one side of the story.

 

[catlover]

Pregnancy is natural. .

Cobra venom is natural . Simply because something is natural doesn't mean it's harmless.

 

[FaithLikeARock]

Cobra venom is natural . Simply because something is natural doesn't mean it's harmless.

Cobra venom is natural to remain within a cobra. You'd have had a better comparison if you said germs or disease is natural.

 

[NDNgirl4ever]

abortion is JUST as dangerous. Being pro-choice, you don't care about the danger. That's pro-life. Pro-choice means you should be concentrating on both the abortion and the pregnancy mortality rates. Because otherwise you may be giving women the choice but it's not a very fair choice. A women who reads what you're talking about is only getting one side of the story.

Yes, pro-chice people DO care! The whole point of the pro-choice movement is to insure that women have access to legal, safe abortion! Read Planned Parenthood or NARALs website and you'll see that. They are extremely concerned about the mortality rates in other countries and are working to bring those down! That is their main focus and the reason they exsist in the first place! We pro-choice people are constantly working to make abortion safer around the world! To say that pro-choice people don't care about the danger shows that you don't understand our side at all!

And also, a lot of the reason that abortion is just as dangerous as childbirth in those developing countries is because it's illegal in a lot of countries! In others the problem is a lack of proper medical care even if it's legal. If they had legal abortion, with a medical doctor in a sterile enviroment, the mortality rates from abortion would go way down.

The technology is the danger, biological problems.

The abortion is not the problem either. It's the lack of proper facilities and medical personel to perform it.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

I know a sure fire way to reduce abortion rates by about 99%... anyone want to hear it?

 

[FaithLikeARock]

I know a sure fire way to reduce abortion rates by about 99%... anyone want to hear it?

Erase people's memories that it ever existed? I don't know. Tell me.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Erase people's memories that it ever existed? I don't know. Tell me.

Give an implanon style contraceptive to all girls at 16 years, except for those who decline it. Same with immunisations.

Replace every 3 years as required, until the woman declines a replacement, or voluntarily has it removed.

That way, anyone who gets pregnant genuinely has to have made a concious decision at some point to engage in pregnancy inducing behaviour.

 

[HOPEOF9]

Planned parenthood is very frightening. I sometimes wonder if those things had happened to their own children what their reactions would be. Scarry really.

"would not want the word to get out" so pathetic. People are all created in God's image and He loves us all the same, no matter what color we are, praise the Lord!

 

[EnemyPartyII]

 

[catlover]

Planned parenthood is very frightening. I sometimes wonder if those things had happened to their own children what their reactions would be. Scarry really.

"would not want the word to get out" so pathetic. People are all created in God's image and He loves us all the same, no matter what color we are, praise the Lord!

Yes, Planned Parenthood provides reproductive health care to women...what's so scary about that?

What is scary are people who believe women should not have access to reproductive health care.

 

[LadyPallasSerenity]

The youngest child ever to concieve was 5 years old, and she lived in Peru. AND THIS WAS IN 1939. With the technology we have today, a ten year old could have a baby just as easily as a 26 year old (it's called a C-Section. Our children's minister had one for her twins.)

Just because we have the technology to keep the mother and child alive doesn't mean it’s ok for a 5 or 10 year old to have a child.

Just because it isn’t fatal, doesn’t mean it's right!

And mind you that 5 year old conceived that does not mean she carried to term, or gave birth without complications. Or that she was capable of raising her own child. If that child survived the birth, and the early years of its life, than both mother and child would have been raised together, and children should not be parents when they are still so young.

 

[NDNgirl4ever]

What is scary are people who believe women should not have access to reproductive health care

Amen. Planned Parenthood is a good organization.

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[BAFRIEND]

Amen. Planned Parenthood is a good organization.

44 states have laws on the books requiring parental consent:

Our undercover investigation obtained over 800 taped conversations with Planned Parenthood and National Abortion Federation clinics all across America, which prove that Planned Parenthood and NAF fail to comply with the law. They ignore the law even in cases of child sex abuse where child rape is disclosed and acknowledged - not just suspected. These tapes have already been used in court by one state to defend their parental involvement law against a Planned Parenthood lawsuit. To learn more about this investigation and the evidence that proves that this failure to report is the policy and practice of these groups,

http://www.childpredators.com/

Planned Parenthood tell and advises children to take their own parents to court !!

 

[catlover]

44 states have laws on the books requiring parental consent:



http://www.childpredators.com/

Planned Parenthood tell and advises children to take their own parents to court !!

It is amazing how men are intimidated by women's access to reproductive health...

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Planned Parenthood tell and advises children to take their own parents to court !!

cite ONE specific, concrete example where it has told children to make litigous claims against their parents?

 

[BAFRIEND]

cite ONE specific, concrete example where it has told children to make litigous claims against their parents?

Are you kidding me ?

Planned Parenthood has litigated against parental notification laws in just about every state, just do a Google search. There clinics and web site tell kids how to go to judges behind their parents backs.

Planned Parenthood runs a site called teenwire.com that advocates against parental notification.

BTW, the term "teenwire" makes me think of clothes hangars .

 

[FaithLikeARock]

Are you kidding me ?

Planned Parenthood has litigated against parental notification laws in just about every state, just do a Google search. There clinics and web site tell kids how to go to judges behind their parents backs.

Planned Parenthood runs a site called teenwire.com that advocates against parental notification.

BTW, the term "teenwire" makes me think of clothes hangars .

"Just do a google search".

That's terrible BAFRIEND. From now on, if one can not cite the source in which they got the information, the information doesn't exist, and the one who made such a bogus claim is lying. Go find your own argument. That's not our job.