Planned Parenthood

[NDNgirl4ever]

The only good they do is offer health care for women and that health care can easily be offered by other organizations that do not promote abortion and birth control.

I wouldn't go to a doctor or midwife who didn't offer birth control. Thankfully most of them do offer it. Actually by offering birth control, Planned Parenthood does a lot more to prevent abortion than any anti-choice organization/pregnancy center. Planned Parenthood does a much better job helping of women than those anti-choice places do.

i am considering donating to planned parenthood especially when people in this country like to push their religous views on women's bodies.

Me too. I have donated to Planned Parenthood before, and I will continue to do so when I can. I'm tried of people butting into things that aren't their buisness.

 

[catlover]

I personally could care less if he is quote mining. I still believe that Planned Parenthood is an evil organization and I will always believe that they are an evil organization. The only good they do is offer health care for women and that health care can easily be offered by other organizations that do not promote abortion and birth control.

Women's lives have been dramatically improved by having access to reproductive health, including birth control.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

I personally could care less if he is quote mining. I still believe that Planned Parenthood is an evil organization and I will always believe that they are an evil organization. The only good they do is offer health care for women and that health care can easily be offered by other organizations that do not promote abortion and birth control.

do they PROMOTE abortion, or merely offer it as an option?

And whats wrong with birth control now?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Women's lives have been dramatically improved by having access to reproductive health, including birth control.

well now you're just putting facts in the story!

 

[catlover]

well now you're just putting facts in the story!

Less women die in childbirth now a days.

 

[NDNgirl4ever]

do they PROMOTE abortion, or merely offer it as an option

They offer it as an option. Planned Parenthood also offers prenatal care and adoption services.

 

[Candide]

But they also offer it as a last option, and they don't promote it by any means.

They also make sure that, when they do do an abortion, the women are fully informed about the physical and metal consequences.

 

[sidnee]

Just wondering, Have any of you actually been to a planned parenthood clinic?

 

[Candide]

I've never personally been to one, but I've spoken with women who work for the organization.

 

[catlover]

Just wondering, Have any of you actually been to a planned parenthood clinic?

Yes. For my 6 week check up after the birth of my first child.

 

[Chajara]

Just wondering, Have any of you actually been to a planned parenthood clinic?

Yes. It's often not a pleasant experience since they're usually pretty understaffed and on top of that, since so many people just don't show up to their appointments sometimes they double-book. Which means if everyone /does/ show up, there's not enough time in the day to see everyone. I've been sent home and told to come back another day after waiting an hour and a half, and that was just for a follow-up breast exam (which takes like ten seconds.)

It varies from state to state. Since moving to Wisconsin I've had few problems with Planned Parenthood and I don't have to worry about running out of birth control because the only nurse they have called in sick and I can't get an appointment for an exam for another two months. (I've had that happen too.)

 

[FaithLikeARock]

I have a book that says something so true: "How difficult is it to understand that a child cannot have a child without fear of death?" ~Nicoletta

The youngest child ever to concieve was 5 years old, and she lived in Peru. AND THIS WAS IN 1939. With the technology we have today, a ten year old could have a baby just as easily as a 26 year old (it's called a C-Section. Our children's minister had one for her twins.)

 

[catlover]

The youngest child ever to concieve was 5 years old, and she lived in Peru. AND THIS WAS IN 1939. With the technology we have today, a ten year old could have a baby just as easily as a 26 year old (it's called a C-Section. Our children's minister had one for her twins.)

Look up maternal mortality rate on Google.

http://www.unicef.org/pon96/leag1wom.htm


15 million women are victims
The toll of injury and disability from pregnancy related causes is arguably the most neglected health problem in the world. For every woman who dies in childbirth, probably about 30 incur injuries and infections – many of which are often painful, disabling, embarrassing, and lifelong.

It is therefore likely that more than 15 million women a year fall victim to 'maternal morbidity', and that there are several hundred million women in the world today who have suffered or are suffering from the untreated and uncared-for consequences of injuries arising during pregnancy and childbirth

http://www.unicef.org/pon96/woestima.htm

 

[NDNgirl4ever]

The youngest child ever to concieve was 5 years old, and she lived in Peru. AND THIS WAS IN 1939. With the technology we have today, a ten year old could have a baby just as easily as a 26 year old (it's called a C-Section. Our children's minister had one for her twins.)

Yes, but do you realize how DANGEROUS and damaging to the body it would be to have baby at 10 years old?! Lina Medina (the 5 year old) was a highly unusual case. Her reproductive system was very well developed. She was about 8 months a long when they discovered the pregnancy. had it been earlier, they would have probably gone with an abortion (which is what a good doctor would do). Most other 10 year olds are not as developed as she was. What you said is medically wrong. No ten year old could handle having a baby as well as a 26 year old! A simple conparison of anatomy makes that obivious! 99% of ten year olds bodies cannot handle pregnancy, and their minds are not nearly mature enough either!
C sections are not easy or simple surgeries. In fact, there can be a lot of complications to that surgery, and most experts agree that it is performed WAY too often in the US. I believe that c-sections should only be performed in emergencies.C-sections are not always as great as they might seem. Having an abortion is safer than a c-section, especially in that case.

To say that a 10 year old should have to carry a pregnancy to term would be medically unethical, morally wrong, and cruel! Nothing but harm would happen to that girl.

 

[FaithLikeARock]

I'm not arguing anything it's just a fun fact.

Besides, 15 million women. There are 60 million abortions every year. And rising. Only about 5% of those 60 million are because of dangers. Trying to say "pregnancy is deadly" is kind of stupid and obvious. Walking down the street can be deadly but you don't expect me to wrap myself in pillows and seclude myself in my room do you? Life is full of risks. Trying to link it to abortion and call it a reason is even worse because the main reason is because parents don't want, can't afford, or can't handle kids.

 

[NDNgirl4ever]

Life is full of risks.

Yes, and if a woman finds herself pregnant and doesn't want to take the risks of pregnancy, she should be allowed to choose an abortion.
No one has the right to force a woman to carry a pregnancy she doesn't want. The reason she wants the abortion doesn't matter. If she wants an abortion, she should be able to have one.

 

[catlover]

I'm not arguing anything it's just a fun fact.

Besides, 15 million women. There are 60 million abortions every year. And rising. Only about 5% of those 60 million are because of dangers. Trying to say "pregnancy is deadly" is kind of stupid and obvious. Walking down the street can be deadly but you don't expect me to wrap myself in pillows and seclude myself in my room do you? Life is full of risks. Trying to link it to abortion and call it a reason is even worse because the main reason is because parents don't want, can't afford, or can't handle kids.

Pregnancy IS dangerous. If you bothered to look at the maternal mortality rate you would see child birth is the leading cause of death for women in some countries.
So brush off the dangers of pregnancy to fit your religious beliefs is not very nice and treating women as if they are disposable.

 

[FaithLikeARock]

Pregnancy IS dangerous. If you bothered to look at the maternal mortality rate you would see child birth is the leading cause of death for women in some countries.
So brush off the dangers of pregnancy to fit your religious beliefs is not very nice and treating women as if they are disposable.

Abortion is the leading cause in some countries too. Anything can be dangerous if you don't handle it properly. And I've yet to see you provide a source. You don't tell someone "GO LOOK THIS UP". You do it yourself and then show me. You haven't even given me a number just a broad spectrum.

If I decided that my dog was dangerous and then had it put down, long before it actually did anything too me or showed it's fangs, I would be called paranoid and probably get a few animal enthusiasts on me. Why should pregnant women get special treatment for being paranoid when regular people don't? The dog was my property. The dog wasn't human. Isn't that basically the same? But I won't see pro-choice people coming to my hearing to defend me while I'm being prosecuted for cruelty to animals will I? I should look up and find a story like that too.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

the pregnancy mortality rate is much lower than the fetus mortality rate.

People can appease themselves by pretending that it isn't a precious human life they are taking, but it doesn't change the fact that it is.

 

[catlover]

the pregnancy mortality rate is much lower than the fetus mortality rate.

People can appease themselves by pretending that it isn't a precious human life they are taking, but it doesn't change the fact that it is.

A woman has a right to get access to medical treatment to protect her life.