Planned Parenthood

[BAFRIEND]

The good old folks at Planned Parenthood sharing their wisdom with our childeren:

"Today, as masturbation is better understood and more widely accepted, we have learned that it can promote physical, mental, and sexual health. By destigmatizing masturbation, we are able to recognize it as healthful, helpful, and natural behavior."

"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population."
Margaret Sanger: founder of Planned Parenthood. December 10, 1939
'The Negro Project'

"Birth control: to create a race of thoroughbreds."
—Margaret Sanger, Birth Control Review, November 1921, (vol. V, no. 11); p.2.

"...But telling a parent is only required in states with mandatory parental involvement laws. Such laws force a woman under 18 to tell a parent or get parental permission before having an abortion. In most of these states, if she can't talk with her parents — or chooses not to — she can appear before a judge. The judge will consider whether she's mature enough to decide on her own. If not, the judge will decide whether an abortion is in the teen's best interests. In any case, if there are complications during the procedure, parents of minors may be notified."
(Planned Parenthood website).

So a mother or father who is legally responsible for their daughter gets a phone call that their child is in intensive care and you find out it is from complications from an abortion ? You did not know your kid was even pregnant or suffering through this... but Planned Parenthood knew. They counseled your kid not to speak to you and now your kid is dead. Then you get the medical bills from Planned Parenthood and the hospital.

 

[Saint Melania]

This is so tragic. It's the state taking away parental rights, plus the murder of abortion, and not to mention victimizing the victim all over again. Not right at all.

 

[Ave Maria]

Planned Parenthood is an evil organization. They should be banned.

 

[OneStepCloser39]

Awhile back there was an article posted on an internet blog entitled "Abortion in an Election Year" in which the author of the article through a fit because certain states were trying to pass parental notification laws. This was my response to the article, which (surprise surprise) didn't recieve any feedback. I thought I would repost it since it was somewhat on topic.

I am writing in response to your article regarding the parental consent for a minor's abortion. I am just curious as to if you agree with the 'parental consent' restrictions on things such as having a 16 year old go see a rated R movie, or that a 17 year old cannot go get his ears pierced without a parent's consent. It is completely preposterous to me that our government can interfere with something as tedious as a motion picture or putting a hole in your ear, but at the same time say that that same child shouldn't need parental consent to
have a surgical procedure done which involves the prevention of a human life. This makes absolutely no sense.


In your article you stated:

"In 1979, the Court held that no state may make parental approval an absolute prerequisite to a teenager securing an abortion without affording some alternative bypass procedure for girls who are victims of abuse, or likely to be abused, if they tell their parents that they are pregnant."

When I was 17 years old and received an alcohol citation in a county other than the one I lived in, the
police officer called the police department in my home county at 2 in the morning and had them drive to my parents house to inform them, in person, that I had blown a .01 into a breathalyzer. Shouldn't this type of thing be illegal then as well? How did the police department know that my parents wouldn't beat me for drinking? My parents could have abused me for the decision that I had made. Does this make it my 'legal right' as a minor to not have my parents become aware of my actions? Of course not! Children have parents for a reason; because they need to be held accountable to someone. Many children do not know what exactly an abortion is. This is why it should be the parent's job to
explain this to them. (And to say that places such as Planned Parenthood are thorough in explaining EXACTLY what an abortion is would be untrue. I have spoken with people at places such as Planned Parenthood and specifically asked them what exactly an abortion was. I was not given an honest response.) I agree with you in that there are parents that beat/abuse their children. Then the parents should be held accountable for their
actions.


You also stated:

"The question is not what is right for most people. The question is what law is right for the minority who will be most affected, perhaps tragically, by its provisions."

Since when did the question become "what law is right for the minority who will be most affected"? I always thought the government was to create laws that would
help everyone, not "the minority". There are now studies that show that an abortion is the most painful thing unborn children (aka: "fetuses") can experience for someone (or "something") of that particular size. And yet the government vetoed the bill that would have required the "fetus" to be anesthetized. What was the purpose of this? Are not "fetuses" the minority? If you are having an abortion you would think the "mother" would either want the anesthetic, or not care.. but to say "I want my fetus to feel the pain" doesn't make sense to me. This would be considered "cruel and unusual punishment" by the standards of our wonderful government but I guess since the "fetus" is not independent "it" doesn't have that right. Much like the right of a man in coma, who is unable to live independently, doesn't have the right to live either.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Planned Parenthood is an evil organization. They should be banned.

Yeah. Cos no way Barfiend is quote mining at all huh?

 

[Bianca87]

So a mother or father who is legally responsible for their daughter gets a phone call that their child is in intensive care and you find out it is from complications from an abortion ? You did not know your kid was even pregnant or suffering through this... but Planned Parenthood knew. They counseled your kid not to speak to you and now your kid is dead. Then you get the medical bills from Planned Parenthood and the hospital.

have you any idea of how certain parents are?
and how many people die from these complications exactly? it used to happen a lot when abortion was not legal on the other hand...

Planned Parenthood is an evil organization. They should be banned.

why don't we ban the state as well and build a nice tyrannic theocracy?

 

[Candide]

As an evangelical Christian, I have no problem with the organization Planned Parenthood. Indeed, they are the only organization I see as trying to solve this horrendous problem.

As I try to frustratingly wade through all the same dumb political rhetoric, I've yet to find an organization that seems to care more about the problem than the politics, other than PP. Their standpoint (as I understand it), is that people need information. We will solve this problem by education, not laws. As well, PP does good things for the communities in which it's involved. It gives counseling, and many other reproductive rights and services to people who would be otherwise unable to receive such services.

 

[Ave Maria]

I have since changed my opinion about Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood may not have the noblest of beginnings but they do provide birth control and sexual health services at low costs to teenagers and women of all ages. That is definitely a good thing.

 

[NDNgirl4ever]

As an evangelical Christian, I have no problem with the organization Planned Parenthood. Indeed, they are the only organization I see as trying to solve this horrendous problem.

As I try to frustratingly wade through all the same dumb political rhetoric, I've yet to find an organization that seems to care more about the problem than the politics, other than PP. Their standpoint (as I understand it), is that people need information. We will solve this problem by education, not laws. As well, PP does good things for the communities in which it's involved. It gives counseling, and many other reproductive rights and services to people who would be otherwise unable to receive such services.

Exactly. Planned Parenthood does a lot of good things. I think they actually do more to prevent pregnancy than a lot of these so called "pregnancy centers" and "abstinence programs" (that don't work). Pregnancy centers don't really do anything to prevent pregnancy(at least nothing that really works). They only come in when it's too late!

Planned Parenthood provides STD testing (reduced cost or free), birth control, comprehensive sex ed, parenting support, and some of them even provide adoption services in house. They do a lot to help people in the community.

I too am a evangelical Christian. I'm also in the medical field. As such, I too fully support Planned Parenthood because they are the only ones who are actually doing anything to stop these epidemics.

"Today, as masturbation is better understood and more widely accepted, we have learned that it can promote physical, mental, and sexual health. By destigmatizing masturbation, we are able to recognize it as healthful, helpful, and natural behavior."

Read any medical or psychological research or textbook and you'll find that Planned Parenthood is 100% right about that. It's undisputable.

I wish that Anti- Abortion groups would stop pointing the racism finger at Planned Parenthood. Remember the saying, when you point a finger at someone else there are four pointing back at you? It's true here. The church as a whole has a HORRIBLE record when it comes to racism. In fact, if you study history, many of the so called "Christian" organizations are 1,000 worse than Planned Parenthood. Many people who call themselves Christians have said the exact same things that you quoted. The Church is actually than Planned Parenthood when it comes to supporting racism and geneocide.

The reason many oppose parental notification is that not all parents are as loving and supporting as anti-abortion groups would have you to believe. There have been girls whose parents have beaten or killed them when they found out they were pregnant. Sometimes "My parents will kill me" isn't a figure of speech.

So a mother or father who is legally responsible for their daughter gets a phone call that their child is in intensive care and you find out it is from complications from an abortion ? You did not know your kid was even pregnant or suffering through this... but Planned Parenthood knew. They counseled your kid not to speak to you and now your kid is dead. Then you get the medical bills from Planned Parenthood and the hospital

That situation is EXCEEDINGLY RARE. It would be much more common if abortion were illegal though.

 

[Trashionista]

You're quoting articles from the 1920s and 1939? You do realize its 2007. Heck, fraternities and even religious groups have changed in the same vein since then - are they "evil" organizations as well?

Also, I have no idea why a tract on masturbation is being quoted in an abortion discussion.

And I've heard the same thing from many sources, not just in a rant against Planned Parenthood.

"Today, as masturbation is better understood and more widely accepted, we have learned that it can promote physical, mental, and sexual health. By destigmatizing masturbation, we are able to recognize it as healthful, helpful, and natural behavior."

I could've read this in Cosmo. Should we rant against that as well?

 

[Ohioprof]

Planned Parenthood is an evil organization. They should be banned.

I think Planned Parenthood is a great organization. I support them. They enable women to have choices, and I want my daughter to have those choices when she gets older.

It's also wrong how some people have distorted the work of Margaret Sanger in order to try to claim that she was a racist. Margaret Sanger was a pioneer in winning the right to birth control access for women and for families. That her arguments later in her life slipped into some support for eugenics does not make her a racist. Sanger wanted to empower women to choose the size off their families, so that poor families would not struggle to support children they could not afford to feed and care for.

Margaret Sanger also opposed abortion. She advocated access to birth control in order to help women avoid abortion.

 

[NDNgirl4ever]

I think Planned Parenthood is a great organization. I support them. They enable women to have choices, and I want my daughter to have those choices when she gets older

Exactly. I don't have kids yet, but I want to someday. When I do have kids, I hope my daughter has the same choices availible to her (including abortion) that my generation does. That's why I support Planned Parenthood fully.

 

[Dysnomia]

Planned Parenthood is a great organization. For women who can't afford proper health care and for women who don't have any support from home, it provides reliable treatment.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear EnemyPartyII

Yeah. Cos no way Barfiend is quote mining at all huh?

that no make much sense me.
Could you clarify please?

 

[Phinehas2]

I have just looked at the Planned Parenthood website and I have rarely seen such a irresponsible organisation. Its basically an un-Christian organisation.
They are catering for confusion that results from disobedience to God's purposes.
They are alos making claims and giving advice that is not proven as though it was.

 

[Dysnomia]

I didn't think Planned Parenthood was a Christian organization in the first place...

 

[NDNgirl4ever]

They are alos making claims and giving advice that is not proven as though it was.

Examples please? The pro-life organizations have been known to tell people things that haven't been proven as well. Example, the breast cancer link. That has never been proven to be fact, but many pro-life people will tell you that it's true.
Truth is, people on both sides lie. Yes, BOTH sides.

I find it funny that whenever a pro-life orgnaization points a finger at Planned Parenthood, Planned Parenthood can point right back, and it turns out the pro-lifers are guilty of doing the same things they accuse Planned Parenthood of doing. It's that hyprocracy that drove me away from the pro-life movement. I got tired of the lies and I found out the truth, and the pro-choice side came out better in my mind.

Its basically an un-Christian organisation.

Most of the respected medical organizations are secular.It doesn't mean that they are bad or wrong.

 

[catlover]

i am considering donating to planned parenthood especially when people in this country like to push their religous views on women's bodies.

There was absolute insantity with the ten year old rape victim in Costa Rica, people actually expected a child to give birth.

 

[Ave Maria]

Yeah. Cos no way Barfiend is quote mining at all huh?

I personally could care less if he is quote mining. I still believe that Planned Parenthood is an evil organization and I will always believe that they are an evil organization. The only good they do is offer health care for women and that health care can easily be offered by other organizations that do not promote abortion and birth control.

 

[LadyPallasSerenity]

There was absolute insantity with the ten year old rape victim in Costa Rica, people actually expected a child to give birth.

I have a book that says something so true: "How difficult is it to understand that a child cannot have a child without fear of death?" ~Nicoletta