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Yes I am revealing my heart all right - I am fed up with people who claim "God told me" but won't let their revelations and experiences be tested by the *bible in context* by other people. You are potentially weakening believers' faith by those claims.you are revealing your heart by your words
send me a pm and i will send you those clear scriptures; save your apologies for the original poster
So its kind of annoying to find out that the bible i just got a few days ago, is good for first time readers but not so good for actual study. Some of the verses in it are not worded right.
The version i bought is the New Living Translation. It kind of bums me out to buy this and find out its just good for better understanding but not as accurate as it needs to be.
So my question to you guys is:
What translation would be best for in depth study? Possibly not using the KJV, only because i have a really hard time with the archaic language used in it.
What translation do you guys like best and which one do you prefer depending on the situation?
I don't want to read through the NLT and get myself confused with inaccurate wording.
What translation would be best for in depth study?
ESV, hands down. It's the most accurate.
And you are sure that there are not any verses missing, or words replaced?
Just want to make sure as i've heard good and bad things about the ESV.
What you have to realize is, there are "words replaced" in almost every translation. There are certain Greek words that we simply do not have English words for. All we can do is try to capture the meaning as best we can. The ESV does a good job of this in some areas, but there are many areas, especially the metaphors of the Old Testament and Revelation, that are absolutely butchered by its word-for-word approach.
And you are sure that there are not any verses missing, or words replaced?
Just want to make sure as i've heard good and bad things about the ESV.
Yes I am revealing my heart all right - I am fed up with people who claim "God told me" but won't let their revelations and experiences be tested by the *bible in context* by other people. You are potentially weakening believers' faith by those claims.
However if you show -using the bible - that I am wrong then I will definitely apologise. You sound like a very sincere Christian, therefore you would deserve that courtesy. Either way I won't PM.
It is quite annoying that the english language we use now is hard to use in terms of perfect translation from what the KJV uses.
ESV is a conservative (Calvinist) translation.
Oh my word, you just about had me ROLLING on the floor with that statement.
If ESV is a Calvinist translation, so is the KJV. Especially considering Lutherans use it (including The Lutheran Study Bible) and we are the COMPLETE opposite of Calvinists (we only agree on maybe half of a TULIP). It doesn't have a Calvinistic bent. ESV is a literal translation and was done so with more than 100 people being involved from many denominations. It is like the KJV with modern English (maketh is makes, thou is you, etc.). It's very similar to RSV (most Catholics use).
You can always use the parallel option at BibleGateway.com: A searchable online Bible in over 100 versions and 50 languages. and compare the translations. Maybe they are just jealous that Crossway makes the ESV available for free online (you can download it in the Kindle store or iTunes).
Well there is this website: Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to Heaven!
And every time i go to search the accuracy of a translation there is always a page from there website on the results of the search.
Its like they hate every translation. They hate the ESV, the NLT, the NIV, the NRSV, i think they hate them all. I believe these people are a KJV Only group, im going to stay away from there site from now on. Surely not all of the translations that are made in modern times today are corrupt. I mean all ya gotta do is compare the verses.
OOHHHH. That is the WORST site. Don't believe anything that is said on it. It's a conspiracy site and definitely one filled with nothing short of trash.
This is a partial list of Christian denominations they (plural cause I don't know who runs it) call "false religions":
- Lutheran
- Catholic
- Orthodox (Greek and Russian)
- Episcopal
- Church of Christ
- Pentecostal
I mean really, to call Catholicism the "Great Mother of harlots", I don't see how anyone can take them seriously.
well..I'm trying not to give what is Holy to the dogs...so.. if you don't like the KJV or have the Holy Spirit then I'm afraid you'll just have to wade through the NLT and buy about 20 other translations to piece it altogether for you.
My experience - if you need help with the Bible, which in english is the KJV, then ask the Holy Spirit to help you understand. I just read what God says in his Word and He is right every time. He is not the author of confusion.
Talks from Charismatic preachers are not substitutes for *bible verses/passages*. There are "anti-tongue speaking for today" teaching series from Non-Charismatic preachers as well. e.g. results for Acts chapter 2:4.if you really mean that you will yield to scripture taken in context...... those two teaching series will give you all of that.
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