Peter the Roman

[Atkin]

What is the background of the situation regarding Peter the Roman, one of the prophesised future Popes...

 

[Wills]

What is the background of the situation regarding Peter the Roman, one of the prophesised future Popes...

future Pope?

 

[Edward Palamar]

The last name in the St. Malachy 'prophecy of the popes' is, once again, the angel sent to prepare the way. Christ has raised John (the Baptizer) to this task. Originally John was born as was Jesus, by the power of the Holy Spirit. Not so has John returned, but by normal means of consummation. Therein lies much acting of grace in Divine Providence.

 

[Wicked Willow]

Is Catholicism a Non-Christian religion? Or has this OP slipped into the wrong forum?

 

[anatolian]

It seems the thread is moved to wrong forum. I think but it is an interesting prophecy, isn't it? So the next pope will be the final one.

 

[Supreme]

Is Catholicism a Non-Christian religion? Or has this OP slipped into the wrong forum?

That's what I was thinking. Even though it has a billion adherents with radically different beliefs for other Christians, it isn't a religion in its own right? This belongs in Exploring Christianity, possibly the Catholic sub forum.

 

[AdJesumPerMariam]

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[Davidnic]

The prophecies are generally thought to be forgeries...I'll post on that in a moment.

Here an overview of them (link)

They are interesting. Not that I think the predictions are true, but it does not say that the Gloria Olivæ (supposed to be Benedict XVI) will be followed directly by the last pope. It just jumps to...and then the last will be Peter the Roman. It does not say "then there will be" or "the rest will be".

Sometimes you really have to reach to equate a pope with a description.

They are interesting though.

Of the last Pope in the work:

In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.

So he might be a very good pope protecting his flock during the end times or a time of persecution. __________________

 

[Davidnic]

The theory is they were forged in an attempt to influence the election at the time of of Gregory XVI. Likely by someone who wanted to influence the conclave for their own ends. The argument comes from detail present that is specific for that time period but then gets increasingly vague.

To apply them to some of the popes past the 16th century is a real effort of mental gymnastics.

The argument for their forgery can be made either way. Also, even if true they would be private revelation and not anything anyone is required to believe.

It would not be the first time someone tried to influence the election of a Pope for personal or political reasons.

 

[Davidnic]

Forgot to mention one of the indications of them being a forgery is that St. Bernard wrote an biography of St. Malachy (the saint who is supposed to have written the prophecies). He never mentions them, although Malachy was known as a wonder worker and prophet. If they existed they would have indeed been mentioned given their nature. But there is no mention of them until they suddenly appear hundreds of year later.

 

[Edward Palamar]

Forgot to mention one of the indications of them being a forgery is that St. Bernard wrote an biography of St. Malachy (the saint who is supposed to have written the prophecies). He never mentions them, although Malachy was known as a wonder worker and prophet. If they existed they would have indeed been mentioned given their nature. But there is no mention of them until they suddenly appear hundreds of year later.

They were left with Innocent II. Had St. Bernard wrote a compilation biography, perhaps there would have been some mention of them.