Petals unfold

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

The path will always reveal the path. Keeping to what is experienced as firsthand knowledge acquired from the path already walked in, the door opens from what is seen and known to reveal new wisdom and understanding ... the heart search that opens onto new fields of understanding.

Those on this journey are those who are planted alongside the river of living water, from where wisdom flows. Yoked with Christ the fruit of the spirit becomes the way to spirituality and partnership in sowing the incorruptible seed becomes the way of life.

~Parent-Child roots~ Plowing in light Hebrews 1319 The pictograph of the Hebrew letter noon is a picture of a seed, the result of complete obedience. The Reysh means overcoming in judgement or the top/beginning of something. Combined these mean “seed beginnings”

Rains in the mountainous areas cause a flooding of the rivers. The rivers swell causing the water to flood the land next to the river. This is the only water that the land would see and was necessary for crop production.

After the flood season, the land was plowed by the use of a plow attached to the yoke of the oxen. The surface of the soil is dry but, when the soil is turned up it glistens in the sun from the water remaining in the soil. The water is necessary for the seed to begin to germinate.​

^ a simple explanation for life to others. But for now the emphasis is on individual condition, and not on external circumstances. It is enough that the soul’s desire seeks The Heavenly Father’s authority for guidance so as not to be ashamed. In that the test of experience appeals to heavenly government.

Finding and living in God’s way is simply learning to be content and happy therein. That is the blessing, happiness. God as Father. we as children, therein find the way. Happy is the soul that knows that.

Supernatural grace is having His law written on our own hearts. Learning contentment is to not betray our own hearts to turn away from God to the enticing idols produced by the world.

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[Citizen of the Kingdom]

As said to the first child ever born on the earth, "You will be accepted if you do what is right. But if you refuse to do what is right, then watch out! Sin is crouching at the door, eager to control you. But you must subdue it and be its master.’’ Genesis 4:7

The power of the new life is counter balanced by the power of evil.

‘God asked Cain to adjust his understanding of what is good to God's understanding of goodness.(reconciliation) If Cain does well by God's standard, God will accept him….

If Cain insists on setting his own standards for what is acceptable, sin "is crouching at the door.”

That poetic phrase captures the nature of our rebellion against God. Sin desires to own us, and our refusal to let God set the standard for right and wrong in our lives is the fast track to sin.’…

The Hebrew terms used in this verse are exactly the same ones spoken to Eve in Genesis 3:16. These are from the root words tashuwqah, translated "desire," and mashal, translated "rule over." Despite sin's "desire" for control over him, Cain must "rule over" his temptations and not give in.’ What does Genesis 4:7 mean?

That same information given to the firstborn of mankind is given to the lad of Psalms 119:9

‘The young man is spoken of, no doubt, because life is strong in him, and the yet untried world full of natural attraction. Here, therefore, is the test-case for the Word of God to prove it’s power; and it is perfectly able to do this, by the light shed by it upon the whole scene, which gives things their true character, by bringing God, (who alone is light) into connection with all.

The soul, finding here it’s attraction, is set truly free, made master of itself, and of it’s circumstance; while it realizes at the same time it’s dependance and only safe shelter in the divine strength.

Seeking Him, with the whole heart it is yet to pray “Let me not wander”. But it clasps all the more to it’s heart the divine sayings, that it may not sin against Him: hiding them there as a possession of which it must not be robbed.

And the world is full of robbers, who find it’s value to them only in it’s value to those from whom they would snatch it.’ ~commentary from ~The numerical bible~ The Psalms~page 421


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sidenote Adoptive roots of 1319 are 2124 & 2270 meaning to pluck, music, melody & harp

Music I understand to be the canon.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

In discussing the family of God, it’s context is always within obedience as the cleansing of evil by the Word. God always hastens to meet us there.

Cleansing of the soul means separation from evil. The new nature’s inherent power finds it’s fulfillment because the soul is being drawn and detached from all else by the Love that absorbs and takes it all up with God.

So we see the lad as reflecting the wisdom character of the Psalms as it is often used in Proverbs. The innocence's need of instruction in the ways of the world introduced.

How do we cleanse what came from chaos? How is it guarded against and kept from evil? By the completed work of the staff that controls the inside of the home/heart.

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[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Being blessed is symbolized by fire on the head, as being God led, or it can symbolize the uncomfortable realities of life. Those realities are visited upon oneself by the God Who calls Himself, Today.

As the rod that extends over the lesser to control and be taught, as a shepard directs His sheep toward food and water, so He leaves the marks of His leading on us in the circumstances of our lives.

When we walk there enough times it becomes the path of life and firsthand knowledge of the Way becomes our testimony.

Any obedience to which is affixed limitations means a wisdom that is above God’s. Approval of His way, where we are not ashamed of Him, and therefore Him not ashamed of is, is contained in the learning of it.

God’s approval can always be measured in the production of the right spirit finding expression in praise arising from the upright heart.

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[Citizen of the Kingdom]

God has been building His Habitat since the beginning. Wisdom has built the house, understanding has established that house, but knowledge is what fills it. Seemingly mankind was left without tools to work out the means to live in a fallen world. But God has been working to engrain obedience to Him and trust as the only way back to the reality of the image of Him that we were first made.

Thousands of years was spent on developing the outward image of what was to be His inner abode. What is seen outwardly as the shadow of the substance is established in the reality of the inner working.

The image, male and female. Made from dust and built from a rib. Then a body prepared for Christ and His church built from wisdom, understanding and the knowledge of all that pertains to it. From the old creation to the new creation.

“Upon Whom you see the Spirit descending and abiding upon (outwardly) the same is He that baptizes with the Holy Spirit (inwardly)” Jesus first received and worked out Himself (to form the tools) of what was to be His gift to us (inwardly) Faith is that gift obtainable from the knowledge and acceptance of His finished work to restore us. A blessing to be received on the day we believe. Faith in God that is expressed in love to those to whom God loves.

The baptism of the Holy Spirit is the crown and glory of Jesus’ work. A personal relationship that no longer is from the outside inward but is worked from the inner and shows expression in the outer being. His building is His abiding.

Jesus baptizes His own in faithful abiding and obedience to the inner working. The rivers of living water flowing as it washes the conscience, bathed in the blood of Whom we have to do. Faith is the key to the knowledge that unlocks the door, the new nature’s instinct that recognizes and receives in love the Divine guidance of all that the Holy Spirit supplies as our food and drink.

The Holy Spirit is the inflowing, the seal of His love, and the power for our reasonable service as the children of the heavenly Holy Father. Edification in loving others is the outflowing and the other half of reasonable service.

Little children, love one another.

 

[Mr. M]

As said to the first child ever born on the earth, "You will be accepted if you do what is right. But if you refuse to do what is right, then watch out! Sin is crouching at the door, eager to control you. But you must subdue it and be its master.’’ Genesis 4:7

Doesn't James balance this knowledge in the fear of the Lord by reminding us:
James 5:9. Do not grumble against one another, brethren, lest you be condemned. Behold,
the Judge is standing at the door!

He reminds us that the presence of the Lord is with us always, even unto the end, and points to
Genesis 4:7 in his choice of words. Except that the Lord does not crouch! lol

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Doesn't James balance this knowledge in the fear of the Lord by reminding us:
James 5:9. Do not grumble against one another, brethren, lest you be condemned. Behold,
the Judge is standing at the door!

I believe fear is balanced in love. It's the Lord that judges, but it’s also ourselves who condemn ourselves in unbelief.

“Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart.” 1 Corinthians 4:4-5

He reminds us that the presence of the Lord is with us always, even unto the end, and points to
Genesis 4:7 in his choice of words. Except that the Lord does not crouch! lol

Well, I don’t know about that

“Judah is a lion’s whelp; from the prey, my son, you have gone up. He crouches down, he stretches out like a lion, like a lioness—who dares rouse him up?” Genesis 49:9

 

[Mr. M]

I believe fear is balanced in love. It's the Lord that judges, but it’s also ourselves who condemn ourselves in unbelief.

“Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart.” 1 Corinthians 4:4-5

Well, I don’t know about that

“Judah is a lion’s whelp; from the prey, my son, you have gone up. He crouches down, he stretches out like a lion, like a lioness—who dares rouse him up?” Genesis 49:9

Excellent verse! Right on point. I feel most secure with Him standing, and me on my face
before Him.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Excellent verse! Right on point. I feel most secure with Him standing, and me on my face
before Him.

In our bowing before Him, He lifts us up to stand in awe! Thanks for the reminder!

 

[Unqualified]

The path will always reveal the path. Keeping to what is experienced as firsthand knowledge acquired from the path already walked in, the door opens from what is seen and known to reveal new wisdom and understanding ... the heart search that opens onto new fields of understanding.

Those on this journey are those who are planted alongside the river of living water, from where wisdom flows. Yoked with Christ the fruit of the spirit becomes the way to spirituality and partnership in sowing the incorruptible seed becomes the way of life.

~Parent-Child roots~ Plowing in light Hebrews 1319 The pictograph of the Hebrew letter noon is a picture of a seed, the result of complete obedience. The Reysh means overcoming in judgement or the top/beginning of something. Combined these mean “seed beginnings”

Rains in the mountainous areas cause a flooding of the rivers. The rivers swell causing the water to flood the land next to the river. This is the only water that the land would see and
was necessary for crop production.


After the flood season, the land was plowed by the use of a plow attached to the yoke of the oxen. The surface of the soil is dry but, when the soil is turned up it glistens in the sun from the water remaining in the soil. The water is necessary for the seed to begin to germinate.​

^ a simple explanation for life to others. But for now the emphasis is on individual condition, and not on external circumstances. It is enough that the soul’s desire seeks The Heavenly Father’s authority for guidance so as not to be ashamed.

In that the test of experience appeals to heavenly government.

Finding and living in God’s way is simply learning to be content and happy therein. That is the blessing, happiness. God as Father. we as children, therein find the way. Happy is the soul that knows that.

Supernatural grace is having His law written on our own hearts. Learning contentment is to not betray our own hearts to turn away from God to the enticing idols produced by the world.


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@-Cassia- you have a way with teaching. Would it appeal to you to teach at your church? Just saying.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

@-Cassia- you have a way with teaching. Would it appeal to you to teach at your church? Just saying.

I have always considered my calling to be toward the saints and to their position in Christ. Christianforums being the format that has presented itself, mostly just as a place to form my own thoughts in following the Holy Spirit.

A lot of the past 15 years on here has been early church teaching a lot like Origen, being allegoric; the spiritual meaning being predominant. I have always aligned everything specifically with scripture and patterns found therein.
House churches forum is directed more toward those who don’t attend organized religions.

Petals that are unfolding now (to stay on topic) has been the association of Father and Son. In the truest sense it’s the marriage performed between the two natures of Christ as they become one, as the Son is in the Father and therefore directed at the high priestly prayer that we also would become the same.
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[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Matthew 17:14-18; Mark 9:17-27; Luke 9:37-42

The father of the son prayer to overcome that which threw him into the fires and waters continuously, help my unbelief, after His transcendence from the mountain peaks with His Father to the valley below.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

One final word on casting the original seed that grows the flower, that blooms in the desert.

Rains in the mountainous areas cause a flooding of the rivers. The rivers swell causing the water to flood the land next to the river. This is the only water that the land would see and was necessary for crop production.
After the flood season, the land was plowed by the use of a plow attached to the yoke of the oxen. The surface of the soil is dry but, when the soil is turned up it glistens in the sun from the water remaining in the soil. The water is necessary for the seed to begin to germinate.
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The first obstacle is always ourselves, if we have never learnt how to break thru the inner man to release the spirit. We cannot work for the Lord because the life of the Lord is blocked and held captive.

Patterns are found in the Jars of Clay that Gideon used to defeat the enemy and the Alabaster Box that Mary used to anoint the Lord for His burial. Both in need of breaking to release the light and ointment as well as the broken and contrite heart from the prison of stone.

John 12:24-25, Romans 7:22, Ephesians 3:16, 2 Corinthians 4:16. (see also John 12:24, Hebrews 4:12-13, 1 Corinthians 2:11-14, Romans 1:9, Romans 7:6, Romans 8:4-8, Galatians 5:16, 22-23, 25)

The problem is not that we don’t have this life, but rather how we can allow this life to flow thru us. The dam must be broken for the living water to bubble over to others. In that way the Christian life, breathed in at conception for living the Way oneself, can have the power to beget that life in others, and the desert can bloom in the spring.

The initial work to be done is linked in the other thread Gaining the image of Christ

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Gen 49:9, Rev 5:5 You are a lion’s cub, Judah; you return from the prey, my son. Like a lion he crouches and lies down, like a lioness—who dares to rouse him? Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”

Genesis 49:11-12 He ties his foal to the vine, And his donkey’s colt to the choice vine; He washes his garments in wine, And his robes in the blood of grapes. His eyes are dull from wine, And his teeth white from milk.​

Is courage and strength like a lion irreconcilable with a readiness for peace? Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a donkey’s colt, symbolizing royalty. By binding to the vine in peaceful rest in the abundance of His inheritance, the most valuable crops of milk and wine flow abundantly from the best soil that Judah has. So plentiful shall Judah’s portion be planted everywhere that even in the commons and byways that folks travel they can be used to tie their means of travel along the way.