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Look at this scripture please. Notice that the apostles didnt obey the law of the land. Which is right in God’s eyes: to listen to man, or to Him?

Acts 4:18 Then they called them in again and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19 But Peter and John replied, “Which is right in God’s eyes: to listen to you, or to him? You be the judges! 20 As for us, we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard.”
 
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What is 'legal' here on earth can send you to hell...
 
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I also lost all my children and wife to lies and they set me up to the point I could not prove my innocence, I lost my family and children and now live for God alone with nothing but what God blesses me with.

In the end of it, my advice is this.

Everything ends, as long as it ends with god, thats what matters.

God bless you.
 
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What is 'legal' here on earth can send you to hell...

Not if God says to submit to government, like Jesus did.
Ok...well, Jesus did go to hell I guess. But just for a short time.
 
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I have ripped my garments and thrown ashes on my head at your view of what it right and wrong.
 
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First, John Hagee was correct. The Bible does condemn homosexualism's desires that are accepted and acted on.

Second, why was your daughter living with your husband, not with you, in the first place? Did he have custody?

Third, those people's sinful actions toward you are despicable. If they don't receive earthly justice, they will be called to account when Jesus returns and the day of judgment comes. That's future hope is a big comfort to me about other people's sins against me that I can't do anything about.
 
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So there is no such thing as illegitimate authority? If they are a terror to good works and rewarders of evil works they are God ordained?

You don't realize the obvious? That when Revelation called out Satan as behind the Roman Empire the Bible meant that? Scary thing is. Many a believer has withdrawn from their duties to work with God to bring about legitimate human government that is just and rewards the good and punishes the evil.
 
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Acts covers things that were done in history. Yes, they were wrong.
All the apostles died defending Christ. No one has indicated since that time that we should follow their lead and die opposing the local laws.

Oh people do play that they have permission to die for Christ. But you don't hear any cheers when people do. It's wrong to ignore local law. We all know that.
 
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The Crucifiction is your example and model to follow.
 
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So the apostles were wrong to preach the gospel?
 
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The Crucifiction is your example and model to follow.
Total falsehood. The wicked would love to have it so. Completely ignores the times and seasons fortold by Bible prophecy and the circumstances of those times and seasons that determined what was and was not the proper actions to take in service of the Government of God.
It’s all sacrifice. Whether dying on the cross or overcoming the influence of the wicked in the culture or nation. Or dying on the battlefield in service of the free world. But it is all designed in the long run to overcome evil and no longer allowing it to rule the world.
 
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I don't mean to poke anyone on Christmas. So first and foremost Merry Christmas!

Sometimes by looking at extremes we can examine our arguments. For instance should it be permissible for a Christian to sentence homosexuals to death in the countries that mandate it by their law? I think we can all agree that it wouldn't be the Christian thing to do, even if the government said it was O.K. We would instead look at what the gospel is preaching as a whole to determine if any one quote was being misinterpreted or taken in the wrong way. Christs kingdom is not of this world and we should strive to be his earthly representatives.
 
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Our forefathers had it right. They understood the nature of homosexuality. They made it illegal. Not because they or anyone for that matter wants to know what is going on in someones bedroom. That is totally impractical in a free country. But because they understood its nature. They understood that if it was made legal, (defacto by our progressive dominated courts.) Not only does it by nature seek to become in everyone's face public. But it will actually seek to rule over us. As we now see.
 
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If they pass a law that says i must worship a false God, im not obeying. You can though friend if thats your belief. Its sad that you dont love the words of the Lord and His apostles. You call it law and throw it out so you can observe mans law instead. You are deceived my friend. I pray for you.
 
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I am sorry about your daughter and the harassment that you have been through. You are not alone in your suffering my friend I'll just say that. The persecution is real but we must remain strong and endure until the end. We cannot make other people's choices for them. Your daughter made her choice and you tried to prevent her but it didn't work. You can only do what you can.
 
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I would like to help you, but I have no idea of what you are trying to say in this post.

It's really unclear what is going on with your daughter. Could you speak more precisely or directly?
 
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Angelstar seems to have lost interest in this thread, or maybe her situation is resolved, I really hope so.

I would say to anyone who is in a situation of grown up kids and teens that rebel and reject to look to the father in the parable of the prodigal son Luke 15 v 11-32. When the son declared he wanted his inheritance early the father said yes. He didn't have to and even if there were some legal obligation in that situation, he didn't even consult his lawyer, he just said yes.

Sometimes we have to let go and let our kids make damn fool mistakes but never, never cut them off. Many reading this will have kids battling addictions, involved in sects, unsuitable partners and even part of the 'gay scene.' Satan tells us to cut them them a d their disgusting habits off, have nothing more to do with them or worse still, go to battle with them, through the courts, on social media. All that will do is alienate you kids against you, cause division within the family; all meat and honey for Satan.

No, be there waiting for your 'Llittle one' to return. Meanwhile pray, tell them you love them, tell them you're praying for them, respect their choices, they're adult but maybe question the wisdom and reassure them that you are there for them, and keep praying.

I think sometimes we look for persecution when there is none.
 
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I thought that was true as well. I was wrong.


Hebrews 8:13
13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Again, I have no say in what was recorded.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 does not agree with you. Hebrews 8:13 was not in reference to all moral laws even mentioned in the New Covenant. It is in reference to the Old Covenant. Hebrews 8:13 is like a Bible commentary on the words of Jesus Christ at the Lord's supper. It was a commentary on the words "New Covenant" or "New Testament." The author of Hebrews was explaining what the two words of Jesus meant at the Lord's supper. So the old was passing away when Jesus was going to the cross and not after the cross. We can see that Jesus's followers uphold the same commands and laws that Jesus did. Read to the end of Revelation and you will see this:

14 "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie." (Revelation 22:14-15).

Also, Jesus said narrow is the way that leads unto life and FEW be there that finds it. I am sorry to inform you but your idea of justifying sin with the thinking you are saved is the majority view within the churches and it is not the minority view.

Jesus said to certain believers who did wonderful works in his name to depart from Him because they also worked iniquity or sin, too (See Matthew 7:22-23).
 
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Oh, I was forgiven my sins decades ago on 1003 w. Atkinson Street.
You need to get out more. How long have you been in the house today?

Does this include future sin?
Most in your camp believe that future sin is forgiven them but nowhere does the Bible teach such a thing.
 
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