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Chriliman · Jul 29, 2015

Davian said:
Perhaps you and Chriliman could show us how two religionists work out differences of opinion on this subject.

I don't believe allah is the same as the one true God. I believe allah is a false image of God contrived by satan in order to deceive many of the Truth. Google search "Is allah an image of satan" you'll be surprised by what you find, but of course don't believe everything you read on the internet (including my words, unless they make sense to you), always be diligent and honest when searching for truth.

Chriliman · Jul 29, 2015

madera23 said:
sure, you can find what you say from scripture, you can get it by learning it, but it is different when we get it from the holy Spirit. Not repetative, but always new through insights and revelations.
And you don't know the difference. And that means nothing to you.
I have compassion for you.

I appreciate your compassion.

dlamberth · Jul 29, 2015

ScottA said:
Thanks for asking!

As for you and asking questions, it depends on your motives. If you hunger and thirst for righteousness, you're in the clear. On the other hand, if you are trying to trap the Lord's own with your words...you're toast.

I just desire to have God as my reality in life. Thirsting for righteousness sound so, well...self-righteous. And I don't want to be like that.

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Chriliman · Jul 29, 2015

dlamberth said:
I just desire to have God as my reality in life. Thirsting for righteousness sound so, well...self-righteous. And I don't want to be like that.

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Interesting...I have a question for you. What if God desires to have you as a part of His reality? Are you going to put your desire to have God in your reality above God's desire to have you in His reality?

paulm50 · Jul 29, 2015

Chriliman said:
I don't believe allah is the same as the one true God. I believe allah is a false image of God contrived by satan in order to deceive many of the Truth. Google search "Is allah an image of satan" you'll be surprised by what you find, but of course don't believe everything you read on the internet (including my words, unless they make sense to you), always be diligent and honest when searching for truth.

Satan has to be the most powerful. Seeing as he has created so many other religions, so much evil and sadness.

You can't claim god is all powerful and attribute satan with so much power. Only 84% claim to have a religion of any kind.

• 2.2 billion Christians (32 percent of the world’s population).
• 1.6 billion Muslims (23 percent).
• 1 billion Hindus (15 percent)
• 500 million Buddhists (7 percent).
• 400 million people (6 percent) practicing various folk or traditional religions, including African traditional religions, Chinese folk religions, American Indian religions and Australian aboriginal religions.

This shows what can be achieved at the end of a sword or rifle. They started small, got picked up and most carried forward by force. The less militarised ones are the smallest.

paulm50 · Jul 29, 2015

Chriliman said:
Interesting...I have a question for you. What if God desires to have you as a part of His reality? Are you going to put your desire to have God in your reality above God's desire to have you in His reality?

If god wants us, he is capable of showing us.

Chriliman · Jul 29, 2015

paulm50 said:
Satan has to be the most powerful. Seeing as he has created so many other religions, so much evil and sadness.

You can't claim god is all powerful and attribute satan with so much power. Only 84% claim to have a religion of any kind.

• 2.2 billion Christians (32 percent of the world’s population).
• 1.6 billion Muslims (23 percent).
• 1 billion Hindus (15 percent)
• 500 million Buddhists (7 percent).
• 400 million people (6 percent) practicing various folk or traditional religions, including African traditional religions, Chinese folk religions, American Indian religions and Australian aboriginal religions.

This shows what can be achieved at the end of a sword or rifle. They started small, got picked up and most carried forward by force. The less militarised ones are the smallest.

I agree satan has a lot of power over this earth, but ultimately God has power over all creation and He did and is and will destroy satan. Amen?

Chriliman · Jul 29, 2015

paulm50 said:
If god can show he wants us, he is capable of showing us.

Agreed!

ScottA · Jul 29, 2015

dlamberth said:
I just desire to have God as my reality in life. Thirsting for righteousness sound so, well...self-righteous. And I don't want to be like that.

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Life leaves much to be desired, even empty, and wanting. What is missing, is defined by God himself: we are not perfect. He also guides us to seek him, and to attain his righteousness. That should be the desire of everyone who identifies with him. That is the very thing that shows us not to be self-righteous...because we do not seek our own righteousness, but his. In that pursuit, we are benefactors of "his" righteousness. All other pursuits would be considered some form of self-righteousness.

Archaeopteryx · Jul 29, 2015

Chriliman said:
Agreed!

Then why doesn't he?

Chriliman · Jul 29, 2015

Archaeopteryx said:
Then why doesn't he?

My hope and prayer is that if you directed that question towards God, He may start you on a journey to finding His truth, it might be a struggle, but what is life if not a struggle, trust in Him and He will see you through to the end and set you free from every struggle. I can only take you so close to the truth, eventually its up to you to take the step of faith, hoping God will catch you. And He will, He guarantees it

On a side note, I'd be interested in hearing your testimony about once being a Christian and then turning away. Maybe if you want you can PM me

madera23 · Jul 29, 2015

C. iliman said:
I'm glad you get insight and revelation through the Holy Spirit, I feel I do as well, but I always test it against scripture to make sure it is from God, this helps me know I'm not being deceived. I'm at a place in my walk with Christ where I'm learning more and more about God's truth and its been very fulfilling, but also challenging because evil is right there trying to tell me I'm wrong about everything, but of course I know the truth and its this truth that sets me free everyday and allows me to persevere. It seems you're at a different place in your walk and thats great, I'd just appreciate it if you would stop putting me down for wanting to learn the Word of God and put His word to practice.

All the best

scripture ECC; 12:12

paulm50 · Jul 29, 2015

Chriliman said:
I agree satan has a lot of power over this earth, but ultimately God has power over all creation and He did and is and will destroy satan. Amen?

Those figures prove otherwise.

Chriliman said:
My hope and prayer is that if you directed that question towards God, He may start you on a journey to finding His truth, it might be a struggle, but what is life if not a struggle, trust in Him and He will see you through to the end and set you free from every struggle. I can only take you so close to the truth, eventually its up to you to take the step of faith, hoping God will catch you. And He will, He guarantees it

On a side note, I'd be interested in hearing your testimony about once being a Christian and then turning away. Maybe if you want you can PM me

No, if god wants me. I'm here waiting for his call.

I turned away from Christianity when I was told to stop asking questions the priests couldn't answer. Without the usual "How are we to know what god desires" After he spent all his time telling us what god wants, seemed to be ironic.

Davian · Jul 29, 2015

Chriliman said:
I don't believe allah is the same as the one true God. I believe allah is a false image of God contrived by satan in order to deceive many of the Truth.

Why is this inconsistent with what Scott says?

Google search "Is allah an image of satan" you'll be surprised by what you find, but of course don't believe everything you read on the internet (including my words, unless they make sense to you),

It still 'makes sense' to refer to 'sunrise' and 'sunset' information in the morning paper. Does the Sun orbit the Earth?

always be diligent and honest when searching for truth.

I do not accept your religious opinion as truth.

Chriliman · Jul 29, 2015

madera23 said:
scripture ECC; 12:12

Thats a good reminder to not be consumed by anything that would detract us from God's will. Thanks, God bless!

Chriliman · Jul 29, 2015

paulm50 said:
Those figures prove otherwise.

No, if god wants me. I'm here waiting for his call.

I turned away from Christianity when I was told to stop asking questions the priests couldn't answer. Without the usual "How are we to know what god desires" After he spent all his time telling us what god wants, seemed to be ironic.

I wouldn't rely on priests for ultimate truth, after all they are only man. I would always rely on God for ultimate truth.

Chriliman · Jul 29, 2015

Davian said:
Why is this inconsistent with what Scott says?

I don't know, maybe ask Scott. He's an honest guy

Davian said:
I do not accept your religious opinion as truth.

I understand.

madera23 · Jul 29, 2015

Chriliman said:
Thats a good reminder to not be consumed by anything that would detract us from God's will. Thanks, God bless!

You are too consumed with learning scripture. "BE STILL AND KNOW GOD".

Chriliman · Jul 29, 2015

madera23 said:
You are too consumed with learning scripture. "BE STILL AND KNOW GOD".

Thanks Madera, I'll listen to God from now on

Davian · Jul 29, 2015

Chriliman said:
Thanks Madera, I'll listen to God from now on

Do you hear voices?

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