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Pentecostals have always had a reputation for being a little bit wild in their services. The funny thing is the offense that some have at this seems to be mostly an American or western response. In places like Africa and Latin America , they seem to be culturally more accepting of emotional behavior in church...


YouTube - Revival in Kansas City



Are you too dignified for this ? I think I might be. Is it o.k with you that God relates to some churches this way ?



YouTube - YOUTH REVIVAL in Colombia
 
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Does anyone else have a fear of God about these kind of things? I know I do. I am very very slow to speak in a critical way.

What do you suppose it looks like for someone to take down the walls and really give their whole heart to God ? Watch some romance movies or read some books about it. Or how about politics . Watch the news and see people out in the streets waving banners and shouting at protests.

Someone made the statment that jeuss came ot make us dangerous. Dangerous to the devil's kingdom , that is. Are we tamed and dignified ?

I say jump right in with both feet. I am praying for God to help me take down my walls and really go for it . Not trying to put up more walls to the moving of the Spirit.

I think that these videos are probably what it looked like at azusa street. After 25 years in the Pentecostal church , I have seen people from all over the world respond to the Holy Spirit and it is often like these videos.
 
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Each and every time there is a new and powerful outpouring of The Holy Spirit, there are the detractors and critics.
Unfortunatly the ones who do much of the opposing are from "the church"

so many members of The Body keep on expecting the holy Spirit to be some sort of "retro Spirit" going back to whatever he soverignly has done before"

the last time i checked our God is a CREATIVE God
He is the one who says "Behold, Ido a new thing"

He is not a God who backtracks, or diminishes.

There are many who claim to be s "seeker of truth", and yet somehow have a predisposed what the TRUTH will conform to
they seem to forget that THE TRUTH IS A PERSON
"I AM the way, I AM The TRUTH, I Am the life"

Jesus wants people who are TOTALLYU abansoned to HIM
He wants people wo are not concerned about people pleasing
He wants people who do not concern themselves with the man made ruls of "logic" and "hermenuitics" and man made "theologies"
He wants people who are not afraid of the Religious Spirits
he wants people who TRUST HIM ENTIRELY!!!

personally i have no problem being made a fool for Christs sake
 
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I went to Toronto to see the Father loves you conference in I think 2004?
The first day of the conference I was there early for intercession I met a man from the Netherlands I asked him why he came to this conference so far away and he said to be before the lord. He asked me the same question and I told him I came to buy more oil for my lamp, as in the ten virgins Five were wise and went for more oil, and the other five did not.
I came for more, and as I said that the man said lets pray on this so as we started to pray the holy spirit fell on both of us and he began to prophesy and I began to laugh so hard the strength was drained from my body and I slid out of the chair onto the floor and couldn't move I could feel the fresh infilling of the holy spirit through me, it felt like a heavy comforter was layed upon me. as I layed there laughing uncontrolably the man layed his hand on me and the samething happened to him.
Revival is a time of refreshing and we need it along lifes way.
I went to ministry school there in 2005 leadership school and the signs and wonders conference 2005. Not once did I see anything wrong about how any that were there display their freedom in the spirit wrong, what ever it takes cry out for more is what God wants to see, not people to arrogent to show enough emotion to get their point acrossed to the lord. What is wrong with that? I believe it's the biggest reason people don't recieve from God cause their to bound up to cry out. If you need something from God bad enough you will cry out till you recieve.
God met my financial need to go to school their under imposible odds, then gave me money just before leaving to go home not knowing I would have to pay someone to get from the conference center to the bus station, "He" met all my needs.
I today look back and I know without a daught God had me there for a reason.
The fresh oil brings revelations of His love for his children, and we need that. We need to be drawn deeper into his love and revival does that.
I first recieved the infilling of the holy spirit with the evidence of speaking in other tongues in 1976, I waited along time for this refreshing and now I see things in a whole new light.
 
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Like me:
If you go to one of these revivals with a need and you recieve it's genuine.
 
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if you are a protestant, then by all means coninue to abide by thier doctrines, however i am not a protestant, i am a christian

if you believe that scripture and revelation is cliosed, that you are a cessationalist, you continue to do so, but please dont claim to be"sola scripture" and maintion that Father still speaks to his people today.

yes we are to test the spirits ( for there are indeed spirits other than the Holy Spirit) and we do test them according to the patterns set before, but the Biblical record is an account of God setting new precedent again and again.

take a look at Malachi 3:6 and hebrews 13:8 and then tell me why God has stopped setting new precedents

what has hermeunitics, man made rules and regulations, to do with revelation, with the holy Spirit who will "teach us all things"?

why do you need to interpert5 what God has plainly said?

Why wold God, who is a foward going God, The God who is the one who proclaims again and again that he "will do a new thing" the one who promised again and again "greater Glory" want to regress to the infance of his church.

Dos not Father want "Helios" sons rather than infant children?

(I wonder – are you the BarryK who wrote the software for wireless connections in Puppy Linux?)
nope, wrong guy
 
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I have to say that I have been raised in the AOG church and our services are not like that at all. However, I went to a church in California and I was the only white person there, we had so much fun. They really got into praise and worship, they grabbed my hand (I was about 14) my mom and sister would not go with me so they just dropped me off and then came back to pick me up after it got over.And they took me dancing down the isles with me. I have to say that if my family would have went with me I probably would have not joined them so even though I am bummed they missed it, I am also glad because I got to enjoy the moving of the Spirit and I had so much fun. Those people really know how to groove!
 
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10 The brothers immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea, and when they arrived they went into the Jewish synagogue. 11Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.

Yes God still speaks today but He does not contradict Himself, He is the same yesterday today and forever. Scripture as our rule and guide of faith is a SCRIPTURAL principle. God does not change. Experience is great and God does move in miraculous ways today, but He will not contradict His word and our experience should always be measured in light of that which has been revealed to us and given us by the Holy Spirit - namely the Bible.
 
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hmm, it appears i was wrong, I had made the assumptin that you are a pentecostal rather than a protestant, but i now see that you are indeed a protestant, rather than a pentecostal, sorry about the confustion
 
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indded, the scriptural principals still abide today, but the circumstance do not.
for example ( and i paint with a very broad brush here, so please give me some grace here)

El Shaddai established His covenant initality with a nomadic people. eventually this nomadic peoles became agriculturalists, and eventually established cities. their circumstanmces afre quite different than ours, and many of the specifics do not apply to us today, as we live in an entirely different culture, BUT the principas still apply to us today.

we can not look for identical circumstances to compare what Father is doing today to what He has done thousands of years ago, but when we apply the principals, we still have a canon to compare to.

whe we take greek (i.e. "western" i.e. "pagan" rules of logic, and other pagan systems of thought) standards and apply them to an oriential ( i.e. "eastern" system of thought) you will not get a good comparison

(BTW the term "oriental" is rooted in the cartogaphers lexicon, in todays maps the "orient" is the north, back in the day, specif8cly the days of the crusades, the "orient" was JERUSALEM, which happened to be in the EAST of where the crusaders were departing from, hence the "east" became known as "the orient")
 
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