Pentecostal vs. Charismatic

[Questioning Christian]

To [hopefully] satisfactorily answer the question:

The word "Pentecostal" is belonging unto denominational trappings, group associations, and basically the "establishment", as it were, of the organized system of that kind of a church body. To be "Pentecostal" is to look toward the heritage of Azusa Street, and the move of the Spirit that came out of it, and to have close association denominationally with like-minded churches.

The word "Charismatic" has NOT to do with denominations and church structures, but has more to do with the teachings and practices which were introduced into the post-WWII healing revivals beginning about 1947 or so. "Charismatic", which consists of the aforementioned teachings and practices can go across denominational lines [including Roman Catholicism, etc], whereas "Pentecostal" tends more to denominational structures.

So essentially, "Pentecostal" is about history and structure [within the framework of the results of Azusa] and began in 1906. Likewise essentially, "Charismatic" is in accordance with what was produced in the healing revivals, and began post-WWII.


Pentecostal is about an establishment.
Charismatic is about a lifestyle and a doctrine.

 

[heron]

Pentecostal is about an establishment.
Charismatic is about a lifestyle and a doctrine.

Yes...as if Charismatic were an adjective, Pentecostal a noun.

A rough venn (leaving out many denominations)huh...that didn't attach.View attachment 73782

The clothing issue is interesting--I've been to an AOG in the suburbs that feels very country-suburban-conservative (flowered dresses, a few ruffles) and a city AOG where the worship team members wear tight and low-cut clothes...lace and transparent coverings.

 

[KingZzub]

AoG churches:

Some are Pentecostal.
Some are Charismatic.
Some are new wave.
Some are WoF.

Cheers,
|ZZ|

 

[dignitized]

did anyone bother to read the links I posted that explain the difference?

 

[JEBrady]

did anyone bother to read the links I posted that explain the difference?

I did. They represent what I understand the terms to mean.

 

[dignitized]

I did. They represent what I understand the terms to mean.

Okay good.

 

[KingZzub]

Does that mean this thread is over now?

 

[JEBrady]

Depends- did you check the links?

 

[KingZzub]

Maybe.

Maybe not.

 

[KingZzub]

Did you check out the lynx?

 

[heron]

Lynx--yuk yuk.

As one who was hurt in the shepharding movement, the point would be that you would want to be careful with what he wrote considering even *he* repented of what he wrote

These experiences are valuable to learn from, and help us know how to approach things later in life. Talking about it is not a sign that someone is still angry--it's an offer to get someone else through it faster, instead of the hard way.

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[BarbB]

not always. I and the guy who painted your avatar both belong to a non-denominational Charismatic church. There are some differences between chrasmatic and pentecostals - but they are not always obvious.

Br. Max! You know, I got this avatar because I followed your links to that website and fell in love with the paintings. When I get back to FL I'm going to order this one for my house - it's so beautiful as is yours!

 

[BarbB]

http://www.answers.com/topic/pentecostalism

http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?dsid=2222&dekey=Charismatic+Movement&linktext=Charismatic%20Movement

Thanks again, Br. Max - looks like I'm a post-charismatic charismatic!

http://www.robbymac.org/charismatic/

 

[dignitized]

Br. Max! You know, I got this avatar because I followed your links to that website and fell in love with the paintings. When I get back to FL I'm going to order this one for my house - it's so beautiful as is yours!

Mr Duduash does WONDEFUL work. One of my favorites is his Victorious Lion of Judah - anywho . . . .

Thanks again, Br. Max - looks like I'm a post-charismatic charismatic!

http://www.robbymac.org/charismatic/

I was looking through that link and once again I am very grateful to God that he placed me where I am today. We have avoided the pitfalls and general goofiness that that link talks about. I think one of the ways that people get trapped into goofy doctrines is through their lack of foundation. They have no roots.

 

[heron]

Thanks, ZZ. I had no idea.

AoG churches:

Some are Pentecostal.
Some are Charismatic.
Some are new wave.
Some are WoF.

Cheers,
|ZZ|

 

[BarbB]

Mr Duduash does WONDEFUL work. One of my favorites is his Victorious Lion of Judah - anywho . . . . I was looking through that link and once again I am very grateful to God that he placed me where I am today. We have avoided the pitfalls and general goofiness that that link talks about. I think one of the ways that people get trapped into goofy doctrines is through their lack of foundation. They have no roots.

I so agree with everything you have posted, Br. Max! Both on the art and on the basic foundation. Once that foundation is in place, the Lord is able to use us where and how he will!

Ben Adam posted that link one rainy day and several of us spent hours reading it. Interesting to say the least!

 

[JEBrady]

I think one of the ways that people get trapped into goofy doctrines is through their lack of foundation. They have no roots.

BIG amen to that.

 

[heron]

I just came from an event where the speaker in charge stood in front of hundreds of people, then came back into the crowd and said to friends, "did that sound okay?"

It reminded me of this foundation statement--we are all just grown kids trying to make things work. When we don't feel the support of other strong people/systems around us, we get mushy and weak at times...lose confidence or the assertion of authority.

Now I'm really getting off track from P vs. C...maybe I can work it in...yeah, the Pentecostals usually have a church structure in place and many Charismatic churches build the structure by changing a pre-existing one. There...good enough.

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