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Pentecostal turned Reformed....?

Reformed people who Turned from Pentecostal or Other Denominations

  • Turned from Pentecostal

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I just need to know. It seems to be a trend that people who were Pentecostal are turning Reformed. Or maybe a coincidence; but in a single thread there were three Pentecostals almost in a row that became reformed in their theology. So I want to know a poll and a story. I'll post mine here too, later; but right now I want to hear others' stories because it's encouraging to know I'm not the only Pentecostal turned Reformed.
 

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I'm another one - however I still believe that the gifts have not ceased and are just as much for today as they were for the early church. That has tended to not make me very popular at times - but I don't care.....
 
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that would be me then , I am an EX -Pentecostal , it took a long time to extricate myself from all of that "stuff" , I have never regretted leaving all that stuff behind .

My position is simple , God still heals in accordance with His will , and He still speaks to us , principly through scripture and conscience but no longer through revelatory gifts .

I spent over two years in Pentecostalism and Charismania , until the Reformed faith came along and caused me to "prove all things" .... the best part , is the peace that is gained by going from seeking new experiences to realising the book of Acts and Pentecost are historical not intended as regular behaviour for all time.

My fav book on this subject ?

Charismatics and the Word of God: A Biblical and Historical Perspective on the Charismatic Movement



http://www.milnrow.org/VictorBudgen.htm
 
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So they actually used to be reformed in their theology before (calvinistic) and switched? Interesting

Yea I forget which ones - but there are a couple of them. It's been awhile since I read any posts there. I live in an area that has a high concentration of Amish/Mennonites so when I moved here a couple of years ago I went to Anabaptist forum to find out a little bit about them.
 
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So they actually used to be reformed in their theology before (calvinistic) and switched? Interesting
There was one who used to post in GC a lot and also the SF section. He'd also pop into the Fundamentalist forum now and then to take pot shots. Pretty sure he left CF quite a while ago now.
 
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I'm (kind of) one of them. Long story, and I've told it so many times in so many places that I apologize if you've already read this elsewhere in the Forums.

I grew up in a Bible Methodist / Wesleyan Holiness background. Bible Methodism isn't properly classified as Pentecostal, but it became a launchpad for my engagement with Pentecostal/Charismatic theology because of their similarities. (For instance, both groups teach a second, perfectionistic work of grace, and both favor letting the Holy Spirit lead the worship in the charismatic sense.) Basically, I had a crisis of faith after reading a short story written by a theistic evolutionist, and I reacted by plunging deeper into the more charismatic side of Holiness teaching, which in turn led me to explore the teachings of a Third Wave house church movement localized in Britain, which in turn led me to explore the teachings of Hobart Freeman--the writings of whom were introduced to me by a girl I was looking to start dating at the time. I was never a Pentecostal in the sense of joining a Pentecostal congregation, but doctrinally I was one.

Ironically, both the house church movement and Dr. Freeman had taught sovereign election in theory (though Freeman frequently contradicted it in his sermons), so when I finally became disenchanted with both groups' charismatic doctrines, I took a tentative look at Calvinism. Most of my subsequent conversion to Reformed Presbyterianism consisted of dismantling Freeman's beliefs in successive stages. It occurred in an order that is more or less opposite of what I hear is the common order: I accepted progressive sanctification first, the Real Presence in Communion second, the inherent goodness of Creation (i.e., acceptance of medicine's use and alcohol's consumption) third, persistence of the saints fourth, the catholicity of the Church and Vossian amillenialism fifth, the cessation of the charismata sixth--this marked the end of my "cage stage", mainly because the girl I mentioned earlier finally got sick of debating with me about theological issues that she didn't really understand--particular atonement seventh, infant baptism eighth, dichotomist anthropology (as opposed to trichotomy) ninth, and justifying faith as fiducia (rather than Free Grace's mere mental assent) tenth.

So yeah. I was Vossian before I was five-Pointer. Weird, huh?
 
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I'm another one - however I still believe that the gifts have not ceased and are just as much for today as they were for the early church. That has tended to not make me very popular at times - but I don't care.....

that probably makes you real popular. LOL
has any from that camp permited you to lay hands on them, in faith, that they might be healed?
keep the faith, Calvin was wrong the gifts did not cease.
 
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It would be interensting to find a Reformed person who left reformed theology to go to a more arminian charismatic church. I don't know how it could happen but it would be interesting.
would the calvinistic camp believe, there could be the elect outside of there camp?
if not perhaps one might fear to leave, kind of like a jw knowing what would happen to them if they left the watchtower teachings.
 
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I just need to know. It seems to be a trend that people who were Pentecostal are turning Reformed. Or maybe a coincidence; but in a single thread there were three Pentecostals almost in a row that became reformed in their theology. So I want to know a poll and a story. I'll post mine here too, later; but right now I want to hear others' stories because it's encouraging to know I'm not the only Pentecostal turned Reformed.

it would have been nice if you included a button, those that have left the Baptist church, to become pentecostal.
perhaps then you may get real results
 
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that probably makes you real popular. LOL
has any from that camp permited you to lay hands on them, in faith, that they might be healed?

Well - considering that the Sovereign Grace churches are Charismatic AND Reformed the answer is unequivically YES - though I think I'm ususally the one asking for healing!

keep the faith, Calvin was wrong the gifts did not cease.

Yep - but he was right about the doctrines of Grace - a far more important and ESSENTIAL issue. I'd rather be right about that than the gifts - which quite frankly most Pentacostal churches are wrong about.
 
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Well - considering that the Sovereign Grace churches are Charismatic AND Reformed the answer is unequivically YES - though I think I'm ususally the one asking for healing!



Yep - but he was right about the doctrines of Grace - a far more important and ESSENTIAL issue. I'd rather be right about that than the gifts - which quite frankly most Pentecostal churches are wrong about.

The Gifts are giving by God as He chooses. It is the operation of the Holy Spirit, within, and through a believer.
and of course Grace, it is God who calls, justifies, and sanctifies. and heals.
Don't believe I have heard a pentecostal church teach otherwise, at least none I have been too.
 
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it would have been nice if you included a button, those that have left the Baptist church, to become pentecostal.
perhaps then you may get real results
Or one for us reformers that came out of charismatic Baptist churches :eek:.
 
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I'm one. I actually found myself becoming less and less charismatic way before I ever got Reformed. I simply saw so many unscriptural excesses in just about every Pentecostal fellowship I attended (the biggest one being everybody in the church speaking in toungues out loud simultaneously, a practice that Paul specifically prohibits), that it was obvious that most Pentecostals give appearances of sticking to the Scripture, but what I saw them doing was lifting Scriptures out of context to make the Scriptures say what they wanted them to say. I actually saw many people's faith shipwrecked and a church split over Word-of-Faith teaching...the ultimate eisegesis.

I have to say that I'm still not a cessationist, because I see the Scriptures, and specifically Paul, as saying that the gifts would end when the perfect comes, and I simply cannot see the Scriptures referring anywhere to the completed Bible as 'the perfect one coming'...a phrase I see used exclusively for Christ and His return. (And, please, I've read MacArthur, White, and a bunch of other guys whose exegesis I usually respect, and none of them have convinced me otherwise, so please don't bombard me with cut-and-paste treatises on the topic!) I just think most everybody who practises give today has it wrong!!
 
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The Gifts are giving by God as He chooses. It is the operation of the Holy Spirit, within, and through a believer.
and of course Grace, it is God who calls, justifies, and sanctifies. and heals.
Don't believe I have heard a pentecostal church teach otherwise, at least none I have been too.

Well - the Assembly of God churches I belonged to taught that you could loose your salvation - which is wrong. They also did not practice the use of the gifts as laid out in 1 Corinthians 12. I could go on and on... Just a lot of problems for me there - which is why I left. Bottom line for me - the gifts aren't the end all for me in regards to choosing a church. I'll take a solid Calvinist Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist church that believe the gifts have ceased over a pentacostal church that preaches/teaches that you have to work to maintain your salvation - or that you have to speak in toungues to evidence that you have the Holy Spirit.

Like I said - I could go on and on - but I'll stop....
 
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