Peace, and why there is none.

[Uphill Battle]

It is because there is US.

seriously. Have we on these forums ever stopped for a moment to look at what we say to each other?

we are vile to each other. We spit on each other like we're trying to put out a fire.

It's rancid.

And before anyone says "look at what YOU said... look what YOU did..." I know. I'm as much a part of the problem, and I readily admit it. My temper gets the best of me too.

in your (and this is a collective your) quest to "make the truth known" or "defend the faith" I don't think you've considered the collateral damage of your words. I know I didn't, haven't, don't.

Perhaps it's because because as an I-forum, there is little accountability. If you walked up to someon IRL and said some of the things you do, you'd likely get a poke in the eye for it. A 5 fingered poke.

here? the worst that can happen is a E-shouting match, a warning, a locked thread. (and usually the thread that you manage to get locked down, wasn't your thread to begin with.)

yes, I'm as guilty as the next. But are we prepared to stop? Are we ready to NOT agree, but stop being such dillweeds about it?

I doubt it. If thre is any enduring truth about Online discussion, is that it brings the WORST out in us, NOT the best. We are "free" to lay waste with our verbal broadswords, and feel good about doing it.

It's time to stop, ladies and gentlemen. It's time to start paying attention to what it is we say, how we say it, and with a measure of humility and grace for even your most ardent opponent.

Bury the hatchet. Stop. I'm working on it. If I can do it, there is nobody here that cannot.


cue the "you're a hypocrite" arguments.

 

[LogosRhema]

Honorable.

As long as we have the righteous religious and the whatever goes liberal liberating the righteous... Its not gonna happen.

But I do agree. Oh well.

What can you do, besides do the right thing in your path?

 

[Viribus Unitis]

It is because there is US.

seriously. Have we on these forums ever stopped for a moment to look at what we say to each other?

we are vile to each other. We spit on each other like we're trying to put out a fire.

It's rancid.

And before anyone says "look at what YOU said... look what YOU did..." I know. I'm as much a part of the problem, and I readily admit it. My temper gets the best of me too.

in your (and this is a collective your) quest to "make the truth known" or "defend the faith" I don't think you've considered the collateral damage of your words. I know I didn't, haven't, don't.

Perhaps it's because because as an I-forum, there is little accountability. If you walked up to someon IRL and said some of the things you do, you'd likely get a poke in the eye for it. A 5 fingered poke.

here? the worst that can happen is a E-shouting match, a warning, a locked thread. (and usually the thread that you manage to get locked down, wasn't your thread to begin with.)

yes, I'm as guilty as the next. But are we prepared to stop? Are we ready to NOT agree, but stop being such dillweeds about it?

I doubt it. If thre is any enduring truth about Online discussion, is that it brings the WORST out in us, NOT the best. We are "free" to lay waste with our verbal broadswords, and feel good about doing it.

It's time to stop, ladies and gentlemen. It's time to start paying attention to what it is we say, how we say it, and with a measure of humility and grace for even your most ardent opponent.

Bury the hatchet. Stop. I'm working on it. If I can do it, there is nobody here that cannot.


cue the "you're a hypocrite" arguments.

Preach it bro!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMT_kAD6cOg

 

[Uphill Battle]

Honorable.

As long as we have the righteous religious and the whatever goes liberal liberating the righteous... Its not gonna happen.

But I do agree. Oh well.

What can you do, besides do the right thing in your path?

one would think that you could lovingly point out to a brother or sister when they are losing their temper, but it really does no more than set them to bite your ankle, as well as the person they were attacking in the first place.

 

[LogosRhema]

one would think that you could lovingly point out to a brother or sister when they are losing their temper, but it really does no more than set them to bite your ankle, as well as the person they were attacking in the first place.

You truly can only be accountable with those who are close to you. Otherwise you dont know if you are talking to a fool or a wiseman. The fool will blister at the first sound of "offense" (when there was none intended), but the wise will be humble enough to listen.

At least this is how I try to go about it.

 

[Viribus Unitis]

Our Lord resurrected. Show me something impossible to those who have a mustard seed size of faith.

 

[Uphill Battle]

aren't we all brothers and sisters? can't we be "accountable" to other members of the body?

we should try.

here is my idea. Check out my signature. (give me a chance to update it.)

 

[LogosRhema]

aren't we all brothers and sisters? can't we be "accountable" to other members of the body?

we should try.

here is my idea. Check out my signature. (give me a chance to update it.)

In theory, yes, but without personally knowing these people. I do not know where you stand in the maturity of your faith. How could you expect someone of elementary level of math to do Calculus computations? In the same way, I don't have an idea where you stand with your faith and how active and sensitive you are to it. Its one thing to talk about faith and its another to walk it. Its difficult to "check" someone, who may not be wise enough to be checked. "Wise enough" in the sense of the maturity of their faith.

 

[Uphill Battle]

indeed. Perhaps it's time we try and grow up together.

 

[Viribus Unitis]

Perhaps, UB

 

[Hentenza]

It is because there is US.

seriously. Have we on these forums ever stopped for a moment to look at what we say to each other?

we are vile to each other. We spit on each other like we're trying to put out a fire.

It's rancid.

And before anyone says "look at what YOU said... look what YOU did..." I know. I'm as much a part of the problem, and I readily admit it. My temper gets the best of me too.

in your (and this is a collective your) quest to "make the truth known" or "defend the faith" I don't think you've considered the collateral damage of your words. I know I didn't, haven't, don't.

Perhaps it's because because as an I-forum, there is little accountability. If you walked up to someon IRL and said some of the things you do, you'd likely get a poke in the eye for it. A 5 fingered poke.

here? the worst that can happen is a E-shouting match, a warning, a locked thread. (and usually the thread that you manage to get locked down, wasn't your thread to begin with.)

yes, I'm as guilty as the next. But are we prepared to stop? Are we ready to NOT agree, but stop being such dillweeds about it?

I doubt it. If thre is any enduring truth about Online discussion, is that it brings the WORST out in us, NOT the best. We are "free" to lay waste with our verbal broadswords, and feel good about doing it.

It's time to stop, ladies and gentlemen. It's time to start paying attention to what it is we say, how we say it, and with a measure of humility and grace for even your most ardent opponent.

Bury the hatchet. Stop. I'm working on it. If I can do it, there is nobody here that cannot.


cue the "you're a hypocrite" arguments.

 

[sunlover1]

one would think that you could lovingly point out to a brother or sister when they are losing their temper, but it really does no more than set them to bite your ankle, as well as the person they were attacking in the first place.

Yeah i found that out IRL recently.
Now I know.

 

[Uphill Battle]

Well done, Viribus, well done.

 

[LogosRhema]

indeed. Perhaps it's time we try and grow up together.

Agreed. No matter where we stand in this faith, we are definitely in this together.

I wish the collective thought of being altogether the bride of Christ and lose the individualistic thought and realize we are in this together... I do believe we could see an advance in unity regardless of where we stand in our faith.

Too many are out to save a world where the Savior has already come and miss the understanding that this is a personal walk, which is why we see so much resistance and conflict, amongst ourselves.

 

[namericanboy]

ck in the 70's I learned something from a seminar called."Practicing The Presence of Christ"..The gist of it is you constantly keep at the front of your mind that Jesus is hearing, seeing everyhting I do..It helps me in the way I treat my wife, it permeates my conversations, my thought life and what I allow myself to view and how I live my life before others...This my be an anonymous internet but nothing is escaping the Lord..Our attitude/thoughtlife is no different here or in person to Him..We will ALWAYS have disagreements in this life....I have studied the scriptures for almost 40 years and have questions when I see that don't jive with scriptures..I trust God to give me alll I need to find Him and mature in my walk..Knowledge is dangerous though when used immaturely...I don't have to read to far to see how mature a believer is in his walk with the Lord..The tongue/written can reveal volumes....God KNOWS who are His we don't, I would rather err accepting one who says he has been born anew and believes a litle different than me than offend one weak in their walk....People see Jesus in all our word and deed whether in person or out in cyberspace..peace to you...nab

 

[Uphill Battle]

thanks Nab... good stuff.


I think what distresses me most, is the ones that are MOST likely (myself excluded, because I AM one of the likely) to be hostile and difficult, will come on a thread like this, sneer, and leave. No post, no acknowledgement, they can pretend they have never seen it at all... and continue kicking their brother in the fork.

you can't make people see what they need to see.

 

[MrPolo]

It is because there is US.

seriously. Have we on these forums ever stopped for a moment to look at what we say to each other?

I don't normally advertise specific prayers, but a couple weeks ago I was making some for charity on this forum, and you have consistently been since that time the best answer to that prayer.

 

[HisWordisTruth7]

Good word NAB....Preach it Bro..

 

[simonthezealot]

Well since my actions were one of the two that urged the beginning this thread, I will stand here asking my brothers to correct me where I was wrong and share with me a scriptural guide that I might learn and grow from this...I promise to only respond in kind and not take anything personal. I am all ears with an open heart to learn.

 

[Uphill Battle]

God is Good.