Peace and Safety

[EastCoastRemnant]

I was thnking about how Trump's presidency is fulfilling the setting up of the SL and this came to me...

In 1 Thess 5 the phrase is used that when they shall say peace and safety, then sudden destruction will come upon them. This, imo, is what this presidency will bring to the world. There will be a time of perceived peace and safety as Trump pulls back from the neo colonial aggressin of the last 20 years and seeks to build relationships with the nations of the earth. Then, the SL will be introduced and many Adventists will be forever lost because of not preparing themselves as probation closes on them.

 

[masmpg]

I was thnking about how Trump's presidency is fulfilling the setting up of the SL and this came to me...

In 1 Thess 5 the phrase is used that when they shall say peace and safety, then sudden destruction will come upon them. This, imo, is what this presidency will bring to the world. There will be a time of perceived peace and safety as Trump pulls back from the neo colonial aggressin of the last 20 years and seeks to build relationships with the nations of the earth. Then, the SL will be introduced and many Adventists will be forever lost because of not preparing themselves as probation closes on them.

I believe that the peace and safety message has been going on since 1888 when righteousness by faith was denied, and still has never been accepted by God's people. God's remnant church is in the condition it is in, IE division, and what I call the peace and safety lovey dovey gospel, because of 501c3 and all the limitations imposed by the state, in other words the strings attached to the tax exempt status. Personally I have written to Ted Wilson 4 times and have received 2 answers on this most important issue. His answers were non answers and he is good at stating that he is just one man with no voice. The other reason God's church is in the condition it is in is because of the "dumb dogs that refuse to bark". I have been almost bodily thrown out of churches for standing for the truth. Without any hard feelings nor anger involved pastors have wanted to throw me out, but "feared the multitude" so to speak. Many have come to me saying that "we need more like you" and I tell them to speak up. The peace and safety gospel being preached from every pulpit in every denomination is destroying God's church. ALL denominations are getting on the "social justice" bandwagon and playing on the emotional heartstrings of believers who say that rebuking someone is hate, when Jesus says the opposite. The church has been heading for the spiritual cliff for decades, even centuries. Recently it has jumped off this spiritual cliff, and are we hating God's church for warning of this tragedy? We need to blow the trumpet in Zion otherwise their blood will be on our hands no matter what the nominal churches do to us, or call us for trying to wake them up.

As far as in the political realm, time will tell what this democrat posing to be a republican will do. He has already broken many of his campaign promises, the biggest one being that he will "drain the swamp". He promised to impose term limits on the lifer rino politicians who make it impossible for any kind of humane, and ethical legislation to happen. He has chosen many of these rinos to lead out in his select committee, and we all know what that means. Hopefully he chose them to weed out all of their choices, but that is highly unlikely! Trump donated hundreds of thousands to the billery campaign, both times, and has donated the same to the ultra corrupt kkklinton foundation. We the sheeple have selective amnesia of these things. I have always asked if anybody can show me one campaign promise that actually came true, and nobody could. 100% of campaign promises are lies. The very definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. The voting system has proven that principle to be in full effect. People complain after every election and scream "they lied"! Yet they do the same thing 4 years later. You would think something would change. The two party system was set up that way from the beginning. The downfall of the greatest republic ever has been manufactured from the beginning. The reason it took this long is because it all has to be grass roots. The sheeple have to vote for their own demise!

 

[Armoured]

I was thnking about how Trump's presidency is fulfilling the setting up of the SL and this came to me...

In 1 Thess 5 the phrase is used that when they shall say peace and safety, then sudden destruction will come upon them. This, imo, is what this presidency will bring to the world. There will be a time of perceived peace and safety as Trump pulls back from the neo colonial aggressin of the last 20 years and seeks to build relationships with the nations of the earth. Then, the SL will be introduced and many Adventists will be forever lost because of not preparing themselves as probation closes on them.

Wait, what happened to the Pope and Obama setting up "the Sunday law"? Now it's Trump?

 

[masmpg]

Wait, what happened to the Pope and Obama setting up "the Sunday law"? Now it's Trump?

God's people have always known that the national SUNday law would come from the right wing end of the left right spectrum of our voting process. The left is the immoral end of that spectrum, and has always been followed by right wing backlash, which if we pay close attention is coming soon.

Those who jest about the SUNday law are quite ignorant of history. Not only was the first SUNday law created and strictly enforced by Constantine but ever since then there have been many many SUNday laws. The first "NATIONAL SUNday law" in the USA was in 1888 and here is the transcript of it. You can thank one Seventh day Adventist attorney for keeping this from happening otherwise we would not have been born.

http://temcat.com/L-1-adv-pioneer-lib/ATJONES/NationalSundayLaw-Jones.pdf

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Wait, what happened to the Pope and Obama setting up "the Sunday law"? Now it's Trump?

Up to your old scoffer tactics again I see... guess what, I never mentioned Obama in regards to the SL. If you disagree, then by all means post the quote....

 

[Armoured]

Up to your old scoffer tactics again I see... guess what, I never mentioned Obama in regards to the SL. If you disagree, then by all means post the quote....

Please.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Please.

Please what? Your contention, your burden to prove it... which you can't. Next...

 

[masmpg]

Please.

If you have such a hard time with SUNday laws please enlighten me about what AT Jones was doing in front of senator Blair to declare the national SUNday law unconstitutional?

This book is factual history and will remove much bias from those who really want to know the truth about what is coming. It is a fascinating little book if you like to read give it a try.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

If you have such a hard time with SUNday laws please enlighten me about what AT Jones was doing in front of senator Blair to declare the national SUNday law unconstitutional?

This book is factual history and will remove much bias from those who really want to know the truth about what is coming. It is a fascinating little book if you like to read give it a try.

The problem is, he's not interested in facts... easier to scoff away in ignorance.

 

[Armoured]

The problem is, he's not interested in facts... easier to scoff away in ignorance.

I'm very interested in facts. Feel free to present some at any time.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

I'm very interested in facts. Feel free to present some at any time.

A spirit of unbelief and rigid idealogical disdain will never be able to see truth as there is no desire for it.

There are plenty of great study sites online if you are truly interested in knowing more about Adventism and what we really believe based on scripture. If it is truly your desire to know these things, seek and you shall find.

I'll even give you a start...

www.amazingfacts.org

 

[Armoured]

A spirit of unbelief and rigid idealogical disdain will never be able to see truth as there is no desire for it.

There are plenty of great study sites online if you are truly interested in knowing more about Adventism and what we really believe based on scripture. If it is truly your desire to know these things, seek and you shall find.

I'll even give you a start...

www.amazingfacts.org

I'm more interested in teaching you what WE believe, since you seem so concerned about it. Personally, I don't care what you individually believe. Really. It's when you start telling other people about what other (including me) people believe that I have an issue.

 

[masmpg]

No need to teach me what you believe! I was raised in the catholic church. BTW were you ever an altar boy? I was. I went to catholic school. I attended catechism weekly for years. Please do not presume to teach me catholic doctrine. The catechism proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that there are many dogmas which the RCC teach that are not Christian.
So what are you doing on an SDA thread if you are not interested in learning anything? This divisiveness proves my point clearly! You are here just to stir the pot which by any standard is not a Christian act. Paul warns throughout his writings about people that speak just to argue, like jannes and jambres. Find out what he said about them.

 

[Armoured]

No need to teach me what you believe! I was raised in the catholic church. BTW were you ever an altar boy? I was. I went to catholic school. I attended catechism weekly for years. Please do not presume to teach me catholic doctrine. The catechism proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that there are many dogmas which the RCC teach that are not Christian.
So what are you doing on an SDA thread if you are not interested in learning anything? This divisiveness proves my point clearly! You are here just to stir the pot which by any standard is not a Christian act. Paul warns throughout his writings about people that speak just to argue, like jannes and jambres. Find out what he said about them.

I just said why I'm here. No divisiveness involved.

 

[masmpg]

I'm very interested in facts. Feel free to present some at any time.

I have presented facts but you seem to ignore the truth and only look for things you disagree with so you can attack it. Please prove me wrong. Jesus weeps over this kind of divisiveness. Show me where I am wrong about SUNday laws. Prove by truthful means, and not just opinionated attacks that edify nobody. Are Christians not suppose to do all to edification? Are we, as watchmen not to sound the alarm when the sword of false teaching, or false doctrine come in to deceive? Paul said "rebuke them sharply". Please heed what Paul writes in the spirit of love and truth,
Titus:1:7-14: "For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth."

 

[Armoured]

I have presented facts but you seem to ignore the truth and only look for things you disagree with so you can attack it. Please prove me wrong. Jesus weeps over this kind of divisiveness. Show me where I am wrong about SUNday laws. Prove by truthful means, and not just opinionated attacks that edify nobody. Are Christians not suppose to do all to edification? Are we, as watchmen not to sound the alarm when the sword of false teaching, or false doctrine come in to deceive? Paul said "rebuke them sharply". Please heed what Paul writes in the spirit of love and truth,
Titus:1:7-14: "For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth."

Prove you wrong about WHAT Sunday laws?

 

[masmpg]

Right, your opinions overwhelm your veracity!

 

[Armoured]

Right, your opinions overwhelm your veracity!

Ok?