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Luke recorded that Jesus appeared to Ananias saying, "Paul is my chosen vessel."
Frankly, since you also weren't a witness to the last supper, I'd take St. Paul's word over yours, mate.
"A chosen vessel is not an apostle.
Kicks Against the Pricks
Euripides : "kicks against the pricks" (Euripides, Bacchae.)
Aeschylus:. "kicks against the pricks." (Aeschylus, Agamemnon 1624.)
Acts 26:13 "kicks against the pricks" (Luke quoting Paul's vision account)
Note on Euripides: The context is that Dionysus discards his divine nature and walks in the human world disguised…Dionysus, the god disguised in human form, tells him that his efforts to resist the new movement will be completely worthless; he is not contending against flesh and blood, but against a god. “You are mortal, he is a god. If I were you, I would control my rage and sacrifice to him, rather than kick against the pricks” [From Euripides, The Bacchae]. Source:
A. N. Wilson, Paul:The Mind of the Apostle (W. W. Norton & Co., N.Y., 1997), pp. 75-76.
http://www.jesuswordsonly.com/recommendedreading/300-pagan-influences-in-writings-of-paul.html[/Q
Understood...it was an idiom of that time....sort of like "don't go off half cocked" is today.....Kicks Against the Pricks
Euripides : "kicks against the pricks" (Euripides, Bacchae.)
Aeschylus:. "kicks against the pricks." (Aeschylus, Agamemnon 1624.)
Acts 26:13 "kicks against the pricks" (Luke quoting Paul's vision account)
Note on Euripides: The context is that Dionysus discards his divine nature and walks in the human world disguised…Dionysus, the god disguised in human form, tells him that his efforts to resist the new movement will be completely worthless; he is not contending against flesh and blood, but against a god. “You are mortal, he is a god. If I were you, I would control my rage and sacrifice to him, rather than kick against the pricks” [From Euripides, The Bacchae]. Source:
A. N. Wilson, Paul:The Mind of the Apostle (W. W. Norton & Co., N.Y., 1997), pp. 75-76.
http://www.jesuswordsonly.com/recommendedreading/300-pagan-influences-in-writings-of-paul.html
"According to the flesh", i.e., "seed of a woman".
His purpose was to dominate the semi-literate apostles and mislead the Gentiles from the true meaning of the message of Jesus!
Ok, reality check:
To believe Paul you have to believe one of the following:
1) The Bible has been corrupted.
2) The Bible has been mistranslated.
3) Some of what Jesus said isn't true.
4) Paul is simply misunderstood.
Or:
You can be a dispensationalist then you can dismiss or accept anything by just applying it to the dispensation of your choice.
He was prepared for anything to push his agenda. He couldn't turn back! Paul was the first heretic in Christianity!
No doctrine, I'm just saying the teachings of Jesus take precedence. When one realizes this, everything falls into place.So what, precisely, is this doctrine you're advocating that eliminates everything Pauline from scripture?
That is actually incorrect, Paul's writings were hardly ever or never quoted by any church fathers before 200AD. Paul's writing became popular after the Council of Nicea when 50 Bibles were commissioned and sent all over the empire.And yet, the latter 1st and early 2nd century Christians--people who actually knew the apostles--accepted Paul's writings, copied them, shared them, and quoted them.
What do you know that they did not know?
Kicks Against the Pricks
Euripides : "kicks against the pricks" (Euripides, Bacchae.)
Aeschylus:. "kicks against the pricks." (Aeschylus, Agamemnon 1624.)
Acts 26:13 "kicks against the pricks" (Luke quoting Paul's vision account)
Note on Euripides: The context is that Dionysus discards his divine nature and walks in the human world disguised…Dionysus, the god disguised in human form, tells him that his efforts to resist the new movement will be completely worthless; he is not contending against flesh and blood, but against a god. “You are mortal, he is a god. If I were you, I would control my rage and sacrifice to him, rather than kick against the pricks” [From Euripides, The Bacchae]. Source:
A. N. Wilson, Paul:The Mind of the Apostle (W. W. Norton & Co., N.Y., 1997), pp. 75-76.
http://www.jesuswordsonly.com/recommendedreading/300-pagan-influences-in-writings-of-paul.html
No doctrine, I'm just saying the teachings of Jesus take precedence. When one realizes this, everything falls into place.
That is actually incorrect, Paul's writings were hardly ever or never quoted by any church fathers before 200AD. Paul's writing became popular after the Council of Nicea when 50 Bibles were commissioned and sent all over the empire.
That is actually incorrect, Paul's writings were hardly ever or never quoted by any church fathers before 200AD. Paul's writing became popular after the Council of Nicea when 50 Bibles were commissioned and sent all over the empire.
If memory serves correctly 1Clement was the first, and when did he write? I think 180AD? (Just a guess)That is entirely false. The writings of St. Paul were accepted by most Christians from the first century, and we have numerous writings, such as 1 Clement, Irenaeus and so on, that attest to that. Only a tiny minority of Ebionite heretics denied the validity of the Pauline corpus.
The Arians who were defeated at Nicea furthermore accepted St. Paul, as did the Orthodox.
Peter quotes Paul?Actually, Ss. Peter and Luke beat him to it by a few decades.
If memory serves correctly 1Clement was the first, and when did he write? I think 180AD? (Just a guess)
My post stands, Paul was hardly ever quoted before 200 AD
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