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Well, saint Paul did write these words: Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you. (Galatians 5:2) So I reckon he was against circumcision as a religious observance. I doubt he'd object to it for medical reasons or even for cultural reasons but once it becomes a religious requirement he is against it.
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Well, saint Paul did write these words: Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you. (Galatians 5:2) So I reckon he was against circumcision as a religious observance. I doubt he'd object to it for medical reasons or even for cultural reasons but once it becomes a religious requirement he is against it.
When Paul wrote that, he was writing to GENTILES, not to Jews. If it were a blanket statement applied to all, then explain his circumcision of Timothy, which certainly wasn't for health reasons.
 
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To say that Paul was against circumcision is as inaccurate as to say he was for it. The truth is that it depended on whether the person in question was a gentile or a jew. The council of Jerusalem clearly decided that gentile believers did not need to become circumcised and take on the covenant, and so Paul writes proudly that he did not circumcise Titus, a gentile. Timothy, however, was not a gentile. He was the son of a gentile father and a Jewish mother. So, since Timothy was a Jew, Paul circumcised him.

Paul circumcised Tim, for evangelistic reasons,it says right in the verse that they knew his father was a Greek, so it served the mission to to circumcise Tim, so there would be less distraction in the synagogues.
 
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When Paul wrote that, he was writing to GENTILES, not to Jews. If it were a blanket statement applied to all, then explain his circumcision of Timothy, which certainly wasn't for health reasons.

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Saint Paul was writing to the churches in the Roman Province of Galatia (it is in modern Turkey) where there were Jews and Gentiles both groups having come to faith in Jesus Christ our Lord. Saint Paul observed that in Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile so we ought not to make divisions where there were none. It is an error to make Jews separate from Gentiles in the church because the Lord Jesus Christ broke down the wall that separated them under the law.
Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called the uncircumcision by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands-- remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near in the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who has made us both one, and has broken down the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law of commandments and ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby bringing the hostility to an end. And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near; for through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. Ephesians 2:11-18
 
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Saint Paul was writing to the churches in the Roman Province of Galatia (it is in modern Turkey) where there were Jews and Gentiles both groups having come to faith in Jesus Christ our Lord. Saint Paul observed that in Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile so we ought not to make divisions where there were none. It is an error to make Jews separate from Gentiles in the church because the Lord Jesus Christ broke down the wall that separated them under the law.
Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called the uncircumcision by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands-- remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near in the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who has made us both one, and has broken down the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law of commandments and ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby bringing the hostility to an end. And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near; for through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. Ephesians 2:11-18

it's true, and there were even Jews in northern Galatia, in fact, fair to say, probably most of the Churches had both parties in them.
 
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On judgement day, you are judged by your works according to scriptures, NOT the Nicene Creed.
Sounds good to me..........

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I YAHWEH, searching heart, examining the affections/kidneys
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and shall be knowing all the Assemblies that I AM the One searching kidneys/and hearts
and I shall be giving to ye each according to the works of ye
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