Passover question

[IKTCA]

I would like to observe (if allowed, participate in) the Passover at a MJ synagogue this year. When is the Passover by the way? Is it coming or has it passed already? Thanks.

How do I find a MJ synagogue? From the phone book? Can I just walk in or will I be a disruption to their gathering? Do they speak Jewish only or will they have both English and Jewish?

I don't know what else to ask. Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[visionary]

Me too. I would like to know.

 

[Henaynei]

I would like to observe (if allowed, participate in) the Passover at a MJ synagogue this year. When is the Passover by the way? Is it coming or has it passed already? Thanks.

Shalom

You would be welcomed into a MJ Seder (what the Passover service is called - it means "order" as in order of service).

Passover starts Monday evening - by 7:30p

1. Some congregations have both community and home Seders
2. Call and find out whether their community Seder is the First or Second night of Passover

How do I find a MJ synagogue? From the phone book? Can I just walk in or will I be a disruption to their gathering? Do they speak Jewish only or will they have both English and Jewish?

You may well be able to find it in your phonebook if you are in a large city in the US. If you tell us what city you are in or the name of a fairly large one to which you are willing to communte we can get you a list of MJ's communities in your area if such exist

You will need to contact them (ASAP Sunday or EARLY Monday) and find out if they still have room and if there is a charge (preparing a Seder for a large number of people is very costly and not a lot of MJ congregations are wealthy enough to foot the bill out of their congregational funds - at our shul it was $25/adult). If other congregations are like our's was, they may have a fund set aside for first time visitors or for "scholarships."

The Seder is conducted in both Hebrew and English.

Know, also, that it is about 4 hours long and it is about 1.5-2 hours after the start of the meal before the meal is served (I suggest eating a bit before hand, but if you must bring something to eat DON'T bring anything to nosh other than fruit or nuts - this will avoid you accidently bringing some foods that are not allowed at the Seder and eliminate embarrasing yourself).

Another thing to remember is that there are 4 glasses of wine drunk during the Seder - 2 prior to the meal and 2 after the meal. If you prefer to drink grape juice just be on the lookout for the juice vs wine on the table. I've never been to a Seder where both wer not available.

Hoping this is helpful - as you think of questions post them

 

[IKTCA]

I live in Orlando, Florida. Please give me a name of synagogue or two or more. (Metropolitan Orlando is kind of spread over) I will find the phone numbers from yellow pages. And I will learn from them what I must do and must not. Thanks for the lengthy reply. I will certainly not be a burden (financial) to them.

 

[Henaynei]

I live in Orlando, Florida. Please give me a name of synagogue or two or more. (Metropolitan Orlando is kind of spread over) I will find the phone numbers from yellow pages. And I will learn from them what I must do and must not. Thanks for the lengthy reply. I will certainly not be a burden (financial) to them.

Please, forgive me if my initial answer gave any impression that I though you would be any burden!!! My only concern, bringing it up was that sometimes folks expect such events to be free of charges and I meant only to provide enough information that you would know what to expect and why.

Here are some MJ congregations in your area:

B’nai Adonai Fellowship
Leaders Ron Warren and Fred Stanley
Meets: Primera Iglesia Pentecostal Church, 1481 Seminola Blvd., Casselberry
Services: Sat. 1:30 pm
Contact: 407-260-0737; torahlife@usa.net; fstanley@cfl.rr.com
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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Temple Aron HaKodesh - Orlando in Casselberry, FL

[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Leader: Randy Sandford • [/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Email: tako@mindspring.com
[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Address[/font]: [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1015 E. Semoran Blvd. Ste 245, Casselberry, FL 32707 USA
Phone: 407-830-8250 • FAX: 407-327-8256
Service Times: Shabbat, 11:00 AM

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[IKTCA]

Thanks. I copied the names and e-mail addresses. Unless my family comes up with a plan that will occupy me, I plan to attend one of the congretations. I will report back to you how it went and what I learned.

By the way, the tone of my voice when I said, "I will not be a burden," was not "I WILL NOT BE A BURDEN."

Thanks for your kind reply.

 

[ShirChadash]

Waaaaaah *I* want a synagogue to go to! waahhh!!

 

[simchat_torah]

you know where to come zemmy

 

[ShirChadash]

 

[Henaynei]

/me still thinks everyone should come to Florida for Sukkot!! We could have a great Sukkot gathering and build a large communal Sukkah..... at a local campground or the like - still would be a long time before tourist season, so few crowds and decent prices.....

 

[visionary]

We need Spiritual food to Spiritually (eternally) survie:

John (Yahanan):6:3: And Yahshua went up into a mountain, and there He sat with His disciples.
John:6:4: And the Passover, a feast of the Jews, was nigh.

Do you notice in verse 4 what season it is Yahshua claims He is the bread of heaven? That's right, the Passover/Feast of Unleavened Bread season!

Joh:6:25: And when they had found Him on the other side of the sea, they said unto Him, Rabbi, when camest Thou hither?

John:6:26: Yahshua answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek Me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.

John:6:27: Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for Him hath YaHVeH the FATHER sealed.

John:6:28: Then said they unto Him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of Elohim?

John:6:29: Yahshua answered and said unto them, This is the work of YaHVeH, that ye believe on Him whom HE hath sent.

John:6:30: They said therefore unto Him, What sign shewest Thou then, that we may see, and believe Thee? what dost Thou work?

John:6:31: Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, he gave them bread from heaven to eat.

The people were implying that Moses gave the bread, Yahshua corrects them in their misunderstanding:

John:6:32: Then Yahshua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but My FATHER giveth you the true bread from heaven.

John:6:33: For the bread of YaHVeH is He which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

John:6:34: Then said they unto Him, Adonai, evermore give us this bread.

John:6:35: And Yahshua said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to Me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Did you catch that? Yahshua clearly and plainly said He is "the bread of life" (Mat. 5:17; Galatian 3:24; Luke 24:44). He is the manna from heaven and He is the unleavened bread eaten during the Feast of Unleavened Bread, and it is our faith Him that will sustain us for all eternity!

John:6:36: But I said unto you, That ye also have seen Me, and believe not.

John:6:37: All that the FATHER giveth Me shall come to Me; and him that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.

John:6:38: For I came down from heaven, not to do Mine own will, but the will of HIM that sent Me.

John:6:39: And this is the FATHER's will which hath sent Me, that of all which HE hath given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

John:6:40: And this is the will of HIM that sent Me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John:6:41: The Jews then murmured at Him, because He said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.

John:6:42: And they said, Is not this Yahshua, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that He saith, I came down from heaven?

John:6:43: Yahshua therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.

John:6:44: No man can come to me, except the FATHER which hath sent Me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John:6:45: It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of YaHVeH. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the FATHER, cometh unto Me.

John:6:46: Not that any man hath seen the FATHER, save He which is of Elohim, He hath seen the FATHER.

John:6:47: Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on Me hath everlasting life.

John:6:48: I am that bread of life.

John:6:49: Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

John:6:50: This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

John:6:51: I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Notice Yahshua did not say He was giving His life just for the children of Israel, He said "the life of the WORLD!"

John:6:52: The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this Man give us His flesh to eat?

John:6:53: Then Yahshua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink His blood, ye have no life in you.

John:6:54: Whoso eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John:6:55: For My flesh is meat indeed, and My blood is drink indeed.

John:6:56: He that eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, dwelleth in Me, and I in him.

John:6:57: As the living FATHER hath sent Me, and I live by the FATHER: so he that eateth Me, even he shall live by Me.

John:6:58: This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

John:6:59: These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

John:6:60: Many therefore of His disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

John:6:61: When Yahshua knew in Himself that His disciples murmured at it, He said unto them, Doth this offend you?

John:6:62: What and if ye shall see the Son of Man ascend up where He was before?

John:6:63: It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

John:6:64: But there are some of you that believe not. For Yahshua knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray Him.

John:6:65: And He said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto Me, except it were given unto him of My FATHER.

John:6:66: From that time many of His disciples went back, and walked no more with Him.

John:6:67: Then said Yahshua unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

Joh:6:68: Then Simon Peter answered Him, Adonai, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

John:6:69: And we believe and are sure that thou art that Messiah, the Son of the living Elohim.

Joh:6:70: Yahshua answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

John:6:71: He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray Him, being one of the twelve.

I believe John chapter 6 is self explanator. It is our faith in those things that we cannot see that we have our hope in (Hebrews 11:1).

 

[visionary]

The Feast of Yeshua Messiah the Unlevened Bread from heaven Is the Messiah's sinless body given for us (Mat. 26:26):

1Co: 5:8: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

We no longer have to worry about physical leavening during this feast. We do need to be concerned about spiritual leavening, which is sin. The representation has been fulfilled in Yahshua Messiah, He is the unleavened bread we consume not just during this spiritual feast but for eternity

M'r: 14:12: And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the Passover, His disciples said unto Him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the Passover?

Acts: 12:3: And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.)

Acts: 20:6: And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.

1Co: 5:7: Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Messiah our Passover is sacrificed for us:

What does leavening represent:

M't: 16:11: How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?

M't: 16:12: Then understood they how that He bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Physical bread is not what we need to concern ourselves with. But it is false doctrine, which leads to sin. Yahshua Messiah is the unleavened bread we need to feast on during this time.

Why do some believe Yahshua has fulfilled the physical representation of the lamb (John 1:29) but not the unleavened bread (Mat. 5:17; Luke 24:44; John 6)? I don't know. If you really think about it, if He didn't fulfill all those physical requirments we would still need to be under a physical flesh and blood priest hood (Galatians 5; Hebrews 7; Psalms 110). It's clear to me as it was to Paul (Saul) in his day that those physical representation were our schoolmaster to lead us to Messiah (Galatians 3:24). The Sabbath still literally exist and we must enter them (Hebrews 4), but now we enter them through faith in Yahshua.

I believe the main point in Yahshua claiming He is the bread from heaven was to drive this very point home to the children of Israel. We need physical food to physically survie, but no matter how well we eat, or how strict we are with our food diet we are going to die (Hebrews 9:27). Yahshua continued to make this point when He said it's not what goes into the mouth that defiles a man, it's what comes out of the mouth that defiles him:

M't:15:11: Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.