Passage to India

[Geologist]

Off to India to sample in the Marwar basin of Rajasthan. Interesting geology in that neck of the woods. It's basically a Neoproterozoic-Cambrian sedimentary sequence consisting of sandstones, limestones and evaporites. Just curious as to how these rocks fit into the flood scenario. Given that they contain a vast evaporitic sequence, it seems unlikely that they are syn-flood rocks. Where would creationists put this sequence in the global flood model?

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[AV1611VET]

Where would creationists put this sequence in the global flood model?

We'd probably mess the sequence up too.

Where would scientists put this sequence?

Would someone do me a favor please, and put these in chronological order according to the Big Bang paradigm:

1. earth
2. water
3. light
4. firmament [atmosphere on earth]
5. land
6. grass
7. [angiosperms]
8. stars
9. moon
10. [first] aquatic life
11. birds
12. whales
13. cattle
14. insects
15. man
16. woman

In short, God handled the sequencing.

 

[Jazer]

Off to India to sample in the Marwar basin of Rajasthan. Interesting geology in that neck of the woods. It's basically a Neoproterozoic-Cambrian sedimentary sequence consisting of sandstones, limestones and evaporites. Just curious as to how these rocks fit into the flood scenario. Given that they contain a vast evaporitic sequence, it seems unlikely that they are syn-flood rocks. Where would creationists put this sequence in the global flood model?

Not much GAP can do to help you. We pretty much just deal with the last 12,900 years. You could check with a OEC. They maybe able to come up with something for you.

 

[Orogeny]

Awesome, good luck with your field work. Grab me a nice Cruziana!

As Frumious Bandersnatch once said, 'Evaporites are an insoluble problem for flood geology.'

 

[Cromulent]

We'd probably mess the sequence up too.

Where would scientists put this sequence?

In short, God handled the sequencing.

Ganesh did it.

 

[Geologist]

We'd probably mess the sequence up too.

Where would scientists put this sequence?

In short, God handled the sequencing.

Which god? There are so many.....and if you say that it was your god, what evidence can you give me to support that stance other than the warm feeling you get in you loins by thinking it to be true?

 

[Jazer]

'Evaporites are an insoluble problem for flood geology.'

In the winter we can go through 4,000,000 tons of salt a year. That seems like a lot of salt to me, so I wanted to check to see if there was any chance that they would run out of salt to put down on the roads. The answer is not a chance there are huge amounts of salt. But what is interesting is the salt is under the great lakes, from back when they use to be an ocean to the degree they had salt in them. Yes, this is the sort of stuff that convinces me that the world is a lot older then 6,000 years. As far as I know the great lakes have been fresh water for at least the last 12,000 years. Now I do not know that these deposits actually were formed 410 million years ago. But I am pretty sure it was more then 6,000 years ago. Also I am pretty sure they were not created in a days time or even a weeks time. Just like we have a huge amount of oil consumption in a days time. Now Jesus could multiply the food, so I am sure God could multiply the oil reserves. Still it is difficult to get away from the idea that it took a while for all that oil to be gathered together in reserve for us today. Perhaps the door swings both ways. Do I listen to a Creationist that says God did it and that settles it. Or listen to a Geologist that has a Phd and taken a bit of time out of his life to study the subject. The same as do I listen to an Atheist who has put zero effort into understanding the Bible. Or do I listen to a expert in Theology with a Phd who has put some real effort into learning and understanding the written word of God.

 

[Jazer]

Which god? There are so many

Why are you asking this question. We are talking about the God of the Bible. Now if I want to know about the God of the Bible I would not ask a Geologist. They do not know anything about God. You may know about Geology. Can you tell me why the layers in the salt mines are different colors? Perhaps you know something about Geology. But if I want to know about the God of the Bible then I would talk to a Phd in Theology hoping they have studied up on the subject and know a little bit about what they are talking about. Do you have a problem with experts who put a lot of time and effort into their area of study? Or are you really suggesting that if we want an expert on Theology we should go to the geology dept of our local university to find one.

 

[AV1611VET]

Which god? There are so many.....and if you say that it was your god, what evidence can you give me to support that stance other than the warm feeling you get in you loins by thinking it to be true?

I like using you guys as evidence -- as I have before.

A god that has so much of your attention, and has you guys asking so many questions, or has you guys venting and ridiculing Him so much; has to be [at least] evidence of existence.

You even know (or think you know) our history, our doctrine, and our Documentation to the point that you think you can adequately criticize us.

That has to count as weight for something.

 

[Orogeny]

Or listen to a Geologist that has a Phd and taken a bit of time out of his life to study the subject.

'A bit of time out of his life' is a gross understatement, don't you think? It can take 8-10 years of continuous study and research just to earn a PhD, and then you take your PhD and spend the rest of your life studying and researching. I'd probably go ahead and listen to the geologist in matters of the earth.

 

[Jazer]

I'd probably go ahead and listen to the geologist in matters of the earth.

Perhaps but what often happens is they are so busy to study geology so that they do not have any understanding at all about the Bible or theology. Then they come here and say absurd things about something they know nothing about. They have put no research or study into theology or they Bible and they are not interested in putting any research or study into the Bible or theology.

But I think it is very interesting what they have learned and what they can teach us about geology. Although I would most likely me more interested in diamonds, gold and the best iron deposits compared to lime and sand deposits. Although I have a brother in law making a lot of money off of selling sand right now. Although he says all his money goes into the equipment.

 

[Orogeny]

Perhaps but what often happens is they are so busy to study geology so that they do not have any understanding at all about the Bible or theology. Then they come here and say absurd things about something they know nothing about. They have put no research or study into theology or they Bible and they are not interested in putting any research or study into the Bible or theology.

The bible has exactly nothing to do with geology.

 

[AV1611VET]

The bible has exactly nothing to do with geology.

How do you know It didn't use to?

 

[Orogeny]

What is that supposed to mean?

 

[Cromulent]

I like using you guys as evidence -- as I have before.

A god that has so much of your attention, and has you guys asking so many questions, or has you guys venting and ridiculing Him so much; has to be [at least] evidence of existence.

You even know (or think you know) our history, our doctrine, and our Documentation to the point that you think you can adequately criticize us.

That has to count as weight for something.

So what does the fact that you spend most of your life on the internet ridiculing atheists, and out supposed doctrines, count as weight for?

 

[AV1611VET]

The bible has exactly nothing to do with geology.

How do you know It didn't use to?

What is that supposed to mean?

LOL -- go figure.

 

[AV1611VET]

So what does the fact that you spend most of your life on the internet ridiculing atheists, and out supposed doctrines, count as weight for?

I don't deny atheists exist, though.

 

[Orogeny]

LOL -- go figure.

Yeah, you didn't answer the question. Go figure.

I ask again, what is that supposed to mean?

 

[Cromulent]

I don't deny atheists exist, though.

You deny evolution exists. Why do you spend so much time obsessing over it?

(Not seriously hoping you'll realise how flawed your logic is, by the way. You're the one who believes in miracles here.)

 

[juvenissun]

Off to India to sample in the Marwar basin of Rajasthan. Interesting geology in that neck of the woods. It's basically a Neoproterozoic-Cambrian sedimentary sequence consisting of sandstones, limestones and evaporites. Just curious as to how these rocks fit into the flood scenario. Given that they contain a vast evaporitic sequence, it seems unlikely that they are syn-flood rocks. Where would creationists put this sequence in the global flood model?

SpringerLink - Journal of the Geological Society of India, Volume 73, Number 6

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Water existed on the earth before the Global Flood.

Any more question?