Paradigm Shift: Holistic Darwinism VS the Selfish Gene

[VirOptimus]

It is a flame but if you are not sure we can ask the sysop to give us their opinion on it. All I said was if you do not want an answer then don't ask the question. Period the end.

Then if you are telling the truth it will be trivial for you to link to the question I have asked about your beliefs.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Then if you are telling the truth it will be trivial for you to link to the question I have asked about your beliefs.

What is your question?

 

[tas8831]

This is not a Bible word. I only deal with words that I can find in the Bible.

So no commentary on abortion, genocide, DNA, etc. Interesting.

 

[VirOptimus]

What is your question?

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Its in my post. And the point I'm making is that I have never asked you a question, and that your post is therefore a lie.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Its in my post. And the point I'm making is that I have never asked you a question, and that your post is therefore a lie.

What post are you talking about?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What post are you talking about?

#148

 

[joshua 1 9]

your posts on science and theology is simply wrong.

Show me where I am wrong. Present your points of contention.

 

[VirOptimus]

Show me where I am wrong. Present your points of contention.

I’m not responsible for your education and you have been shown your errors lots of times, more or less every time you try to post about science. But as you never listen and never learns its pointless.

 

[bhsmte]

Show me where I am wrong. Present your points of contention.

LOL.

This has been done for you in virtually everythread you post in. You are blind to it though and it is easy to deteemine why.

 

[joshua 1 9]

This has been done for you in virtually everythread you post in. You are blind to it though and it is easy to deteemine why.

No reason to argue for myself because that would not prove anything one way or the other. The issue is to present whatever science you have that proves the Bible to be wrong or in error. Show me your scientific evidence that God does not exist. Even Harvard professor Gould would argue that Science can not falsify the existence of God. Even Dawkins can't be sure God does not exist. So if you think you can do what those two heavy weights can not do then give it your best shot.

In the mean time attacking me for whatever perceived weakness I have just further proves that the Bible is absolute truth and indisputable. If you can prove that I am foolish, weak and lowly then you are proving that the Bible is true because God uses the weak to shame the strong and the wise. This is why Paul boasted in God and not in himself.

1 cor 1 27 "But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 He chose the lowly and despised things of the world, and the things that are not, to nullify the things that are, 29 so that no one may boast in His presence"

So keep up the good work bhsmte because you are doing a wonderful job of proving that God is real and that God exists.

 

[bhsmte]

No reason to argue for myself because that would not prove anything one way or the other. The issue is to present whatever science you have that proves the Bible to be wrong or in error. Show me your scientific evidence that God does not exist. Even Harvard professor Gould would argue that Science can not falsify the existence of God. Even Dawkins can't be sure God does not exist. So if you think you can do what those two heavy weights can not do then give it your best shot.

In the mean time attacking me for whatever perceived weakness I have just further proves that the Bible is absolute truth and indisputable. If you can prove that I am foolish, weak and lowly then you are proving that the Bible is true because God uses the weak to shame the strong and the wise. This is why Paul boasted in God and not in himself.

1 cor 1 27 "But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 He chose the lowly and despised things of the world, and the things that are not, to nullify the things that are, 29 so that no one may boast in His presence"

So keep up the good work bhsmte because you are doing a wonderful job of proving that God is real and that God exists.

Trying to shift the burden of proof, is a sure fire sign, you have nothing.

And, your own posts tell us all we need to know about you, that is all one needs.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Trying to shift the burden of proof, is a sure fire sign, you have nothing.

Glad that your able to admit that you have nothing.

 

[PsychoSarah]

So no commentary on abortion, genocide, DNA, etc. Interesting.

The bible comments on abortion, in a way... ceremonial abortion if you believe your wife has been cheating on you, that is.

 

[PsychoSarah]

No reason to argue for myself because that would not prove anything one way or the other.

How so? I mean, if you could make a miracle happen at will, that'd be pretty darn impressive evidence in favor of you, in my opinion.

The issue is to present whatever science you have that proves the Bible to be wrong or in error.

There are entire websites dedicated to bible contradictions, so feel free to do a Google search.

Show me your scientific evidence that God does not exist.

Show me the scientific evidence that Thor doesn't exist. Or bigfoot. Or vampires. The existence of something can't be disproven unless the very nature of it is a contradiction, like a square circle.

Even Harvard professor Gould would argue that Science can not falsify the existence of God. Even Dawkins can't be sure God does not exist. So if you think you can do what those two heavy weights can not do then give it your best shot.

How do you sleep at night believing every possible thing exists, simply because they can't be disproven? Do you worry about werewolves every full moon?

In the mean time attacking me for whatever perceived weakness I have just further proves that the Bible is absolute truth and indisputable.

Not really. People generally don't dispute that 2+2=4, and you wouldn't say that the lack of challenge to that concept makes it less likely to be accurate.

If you can prove that I am foolish, weak and lowly then you are proving that the Bible is true because God uses the weak to shame the strong and the wise.

I don't view you as weak, as I guarantee that you are stronger than I in most physical aspects, and probably have more patience than I do.

 

[bhsmte]

Glad that your able to admit that you have nothing.

LOL

 

[joshua 1 9]

How so? I mean, if you could make a miracle happen at will, that'd be pretty darn impressive evidence in favor of you, in my opinion.

The problem with a miracle is that everything is restored to the way it should be. So you have to prove that there was a problem in the first place. A miracle restores everything to God's plan and purpose.

There are entire websites dedicated to bible contradictions, so feel free to do a Google search.

Yes and all of it is based on the skeptics or scoffers Bible. So all of it is based on how a reprobate mind functions. We can go there if you want, but up to now no one seems to want to go there.

How do you sleep at night believing every possible thing exists, simply because they can't be disproven?

You miss the point. The Bible is no different than Science. So how can you sleep at night based on what Science cannot disprove.

WE can prove as much as Science is able to prove. So the weakness is in Science and the evidence that Science is able to produce to verify how accurate and true the Bible is. So when you ask for scientific evidence for the Bible then you have to accept the weakness of Science and what they can do.

 

[joshua 1 9]

The bible comments on abortion, in a way... ceremonial abortion if you believe your wife has been cheating on you, that is.

Yes: "dust that is on the floor of the tabernacle". Only problem is there is no tabernacle. If they ever rebuild the temple then we can give it a try to see if it works. Although if it does then you would perhaps give credit to the power of suggestion or something like that. Just like if a doctor were to actually see a miracle they would just call it spontaneous remission.

 

[bhsmte]

The problem with a miracle is that everything is restored to the way it should be. So you have to prove that there was a problem in the first place. A miracle restores everything to God's plan and purpose.
Yes and all of it is based on the skeptics or scoffers Bible. So all of it is based on how a reprobate mind functions. We can go there if you want, but up to now no one seems to want to go there.
You miss the point. The Bible is no different than Science. So how can you sleep at night based on what Science cannot disprove.

WE can prove as much as Science is able to prove. So the weakness is in Science and the evidence that Science is able to produce to verify how accurate and true the Bible is. So when you ask for scientific evidence for the Bible then you have to accept the weakness of Science and what they can do.

Word salad and lacking evidence to support.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Word salad and lacking evidence to support.

Whenever you do not understand something you like to use the term: "word salad". This very simple IF you want scientific evidence as a standard then you are going to limit yourself to the limits that we have with science. For example we talk about "The half-life of knowledge or half-life of facts" wiki. Science is limited by what they call a half-life. This is an example of the limitations that you have to work with. My son says with math sometimes you can have an exact answer and other times you can not arrive at an exact number you can only summarize an estimate or a range of numbers.

 

[bhsmte]

Whenever you do not understand something you like to use the term: "word salad". This very simple IF you want scientific evidence as a standard then you are going to limit yourself to the limits that we have with science. For example we talk about "The half-life of knowledge or half-life of facts" wiki. Science is limited by what they call a half-life. This is an example of the limitations that you have to work with. My son says with math sometimes you can have an exact answer and other times you can not arrive at an exact number you can only summarize an estimate or a range of numbers.

Many of your posts are word salad, because they have nothing to do with the topic at hand and lack any objective evidence, to support your claims.

That is reality and I am not the only one that notices how obvious this is.