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All my life I've always had a extreme fear of women. I don't know what it is, or rather it's gentic or what. I even fear to even look at them when I walk by, I even freeze up when I see one on tv.^_^ is this Gods' way of keeping me single?

like today, as I walked around the corner at work, this girl was sitting down, talking on her cell phone. and when I saw her, my whole body tremble.:sigh: is their a reason I'm like this. why would I fear something, that I will never have to be confronted with? why can't I just be cool? it's nerve wreaking all the time.
 

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Were you attracted to this girl?

Try and find a girl whom you can we friends with, maybe a buddies wife and start there. Go to the local restaurants (Waffle houses, etc) where fraternization is encouraged and try general conversation with a waitress. Talk to Women at Wal-Mart (ask if ___ is a good buy).

All men are scared of us to some extent, but try and remember we are human too.

Prayers
 
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Were you attracted to this girl?

Try and find a girl whom you can we friends with, maybe a buddies wife and start there. Go to the local restaurants (Waffle houses, etc) where fraternization is encouraged and try general conversation with a waitress. Talk to Women at Wal-Mart (ask if ___ is a good buy).

All men are scared of us to some extent, but try and remember we are human too.

Prayers

Thanks so much, are men more afraid of women, than women are of men? for some reason, women seem to be more confident than men.:D really. why did I panic? I wasn't trying to meet her. just ran into her, and found her very attractive:thumbsup: I've always for some reason, been intimadated by very attractive women.:blush: I try to hype myself up and tell myself, I don't want to meet one anyway. but when I see a attractive one, I just fall apart. I thought by doing this It would heal my fears. to no advail.
 
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Have you ever spoken to a counselor or therapist about this fear. It sounds like you may need to discuss it, and work through it. I recommend you seek advice from one.


Hey madison, I like that name:thumbsup: but no, I havn't. but this is mostly toward women. really no biggie. I can deal with it, I was just wondering, why this one particular thing is such a problem for me? thanks for your help.:)
 
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It's hard to tell the line between what is normal and what may require counselling to help you understand.

Generally, women have had this effect on men since the beginning of time. And it works both ways too.

I think I might be taking it alittle overboard, it's like seeing a trauntula on your wall,:eek: that's about how I feel whenever this happens. why am I feeling this way? for no reason.I've never really had any confidence in myself when it comes to approaching women.

why don't women ask men out:scratch: they have less of a chance of being rejected than we do. I mean...who's going to turn down a pretty woman:D
 
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I've never really had any confidence in myself when it comes to approaching women.
Jackpot! You just answered your own question. You have a fear of being rejected, maybe even a little low self-esteem. That is ok, we all do at some time in our lifes.
You gotta start somewhere, maybe even getting more involved in church. Does your church have singles activities, or anything where you can be around the opposite sex?
Do not devalue yourself, you are wonderful , and God has someone for you. So no need to worry. If she says no when you ask her out. Big deal, her loss, right? She missed out on a wonderful time with a wonderful person. You just remember that you are a great person, and do not sweat the small stuff.......... michael
 
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I think I might be taking it alittle overboard, it's like seeing a trauntula on your wall,:eek: that's about how I feel whenever this happens. why am I feeling this way? for no reason.I've never really had any confidence in myself when it comes to approaching women.

why don't women ask men out:scratch: they have less of a chance of being rejected than we do. I mean...who's going to turn down a pretty woman:D
Hi, I think you may have hit on part of your answer in what you said:" I've never really had any confidence in myself when it comes to approaching women." I think this might be part of the reason why. When we have confidence in what we're doing, we can tackle it head on. Without confidence, we have a tendency to be more reserved>
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Hi George,

I can relate somewhat; I definitley fear men in a lot of instances.

I also used to think that it may have been God's way of keeping me single, but I don't think that God would call us to do something by making us frightened of the alternative, you know? Such as, he would make us fear our home in order to get us to be missionaries. I think it would be more a thing of an increased desire toward one or the other- i.e., a love for missions that supercedes your love for home(or a love for singleness and the freedom that offers that supercedes a love for marriage)


I think self-esteem can have a lot to do with it;. if you're not confident of yourself, then relating to other people that you feel you are supposed to impress is frightening. If you don't feel you can resolve it with prayer and personal reflection(and there is no shame in not being able to do that yourself...no man is an island) than I'd recommend having a few sessions with a counselor who can help you sort through things.

Good luck :)

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Hi George,

I can relate somewhat; I definitley fear men in a lot of instances.

I also used to think that it may have been God's way of keeping me single, but I don't think that God would call us to do something by making us frightened of the alternative, you know? Such as, he would make us fear our home in order to get us to be missionaries. I think it would be more a thing of an increased desire toward one or the other- i.e., a love for missions that supercedes your love for home(or a love for singleness and the freedom that offers that supercedes a love for marriage)


I think self-esteem can have a lot to do with it;. if you're not confident of yourself, then relating to other people that you feel you are supposed to impress is frightening. If you don't feel you can resolve it with prayer and personal reflection(and there is no shame in not being able to do that yourself...no man is an island) than I'd recommend having a few sessions with a counselor who can help you sort through things.

Good luck :)

-brea

Thanks -brea, by the way...how are you doing in that area? do you still feel the same as befor? pray that I can accept my singleness, and not get hung up on this area of my life?
 
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Thanks -brea, by the way...how are you doing in that area? do you still feel the same as befor? pray that I can accept my singleness, and not get hung up on this area of my life?

George,

I am actually in counseling now which is helping work through the issue. It's a long road, but I feel better than I did before. It's important to have patience during any kind of change, you know? God made our psyches very complex...sometimes all that complexity comes back to bite us ;) lol.

I have begun to date again a little more, so my attitudes must have changed at least somewhat :)

I will pray for God to work in your heart about these issues :)
 
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I can relate to this, but for the most part this is in the past for me (but even still I struggle sometimes in this area--meaning I don't think it ever really goes away totally).

Now, as someone who has been EXTREMELY shy and has managed to come back from that and be semi-outgoing (I'm still not extremely extroverted, but at least I finally have the confidence to hold a conversation with people and not get nervous--which I consider to be a major victory in my life), let me give you some tips and pointers that helped me.

First of all, RELAXATION. That's the crux of your problem. You have conditioned yourself into thinking the person you are talking to is better than you in some way. THEY ARE NOT. I know this sounds semi-gross, but that beautiful, cute, and/or popular girl you are talking to uses the bathroom like you, she gets sick and throws up like you do, she gets boogers (yeah that's crude I know :D ) like you do, and there's even a time of the month where she is EXTREMELY gross for 3-5 days. Yeah, I know that's kind of sick to think about, but these things make you realize that they are more human and not something to be put up on a pedastool. If you can convince yourself that this person is in most aspects the same or very similar to yourself, you can begin to relax.

Secondly, you got to have a REALIZATION about this girl. The realization is that this girl (and all girls/people) has the exact same fears and insecurities you do. Just because she's pretty doesn't mean that she doesn't think she is ugly or is insecure about the way she looks. 99.9% of ALL the girls you meet have this insecurity. I mean, you can be talking to complete BABE and she probably STILL thinks she is ugly. Girls can be extremely insecure...it's natural. How this helps you is to realize that you not only have the same "grossities" as she does, but you share the same insecurities. The same feelings and worries you have about her, she is doubt feeling them about you (at least a little bit), the difference is that she has probably learned to hide it better and APPEAR confident. And in this game, appearances are half the battle.

The last big thing is REVELATION. Revealing yourself to her (and other people) in such a way as to not convey your insecurities. It's all a mind game. If you get inside your own head and begin to talk yourself up to yourself and use things to motivate yourself, you can reveal yourself as a confident and secure person. If you give off the insecurities you are feeling by clamming up and getting nervous, she'll sense that and it'll make her uncomfortable and awkward, which in turn you will see that awkwardness in her. When that happens, because of your insecurities, you will assume that she is awkward because of YOU personally...because you think you are a loser or something. When in reality, she's only being awkward with you because she can sense your insecurity.

I said all that to say this: YOU CONTROL HOW YOU REACT TO OTHER PEOPLE. It IS in your power, believe it or not. And the major cure for this is psyching yourself up (trust me it's difficult to do at first) until after a while you begin to get comfortable with yourself and you don't have to psych yourself up anymore.

What are some ways to psych yourself up?

Here's some things I did:

1. From now on, ANYTIME you walk past a person, MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH THEM. This is a key battle in the confidence game. Making eye contact is your first step into a brave new world because this is the point that makes you insecure. EVERYBODY you meet or run into, look them square in the eye and hold their gaze, at least for a few seconds until you begin to get more comfortable with it (which DOES take time).

2. When you've gotten yourself trained to make eye contact with the people you meet, it's time to take the next step: GREETING them. You don't have to be all intense about it or say much. Just get used to making eye contact with people and THEN saying "Hi" or "How you doing?". YOu don't have to strike up a conversation with them just yet, just take baby steps at initiating eye contact and then greeting them. I promise you that this is a MAJOR chunk of the battle.

3. After this, then, you're ready for the next big hurdle: INITIATING A CONVERSATION. Contrary to popular opinion, initiating a conversation isn't extremely hard to do. When your mind goes blank, stop yourself right there, take a DEEP BREATH, and calm yourself down. Yeah, it may seem sort of weird to the other person at first, but at this point you are just using that other person to build confidence in yourself.

Conversation is a game as well. In fact, it's very much like a game of tennis. Imagine if you will, that you are playing tennis with your friend. Now imagine that your friend has a case of three tennis balls and you guys are out on the court. Casually, he lobs up the ball and serves it to you. Now, imagine if you just stood there and watched it go by and then just sort of giggled nervously. Ok, so your friend would get out another ball and lob it across the net. Imagine again that you just let it go by, until finally after 3 balls, your friend no long has any balls. They are all on your side of the court.

Conversation is just like that. EXACTLY like that. Imagine is someone comes up to you and says something to you and you just grunt out the bare minimum of "um hmmm" or "fine". You are essentially letting that ball fly past you and eventually, after so many tries your friend will be out of "balls" or intros to conversation. The key is to see the ball coming and be prepared to return it and volley it back and forth. I mean, EVENTUALLY the ball will get by one of you, but then you have a couple of other balls (or topics) in reserve that can fill out a nice conversation before you guys run dry.

Essentially, then it's like playing tennis. Here, let me give you an example of "holding the ball" and letting a conversation die:

Her: Hey, how are you today?
You: Fine.
Her: Uh, did you watch the game last night?
You: Yes.
Her: I was so psyched about how that one guy hit that triple.
You: *nervous laugh* Yeah, me too
Her: *awkwardly* Well, I better go.
You: Ok

Do you see how "You" held the ball there? Now, let me give you an example of how to "return her serve":

Her: Hey, how are you today?
You: I'm pretty good. How are you?
Her: Ok I guess. Did you watch the game last night?
You: Yeah, it was awesome. Did you see the game-wining triple?
Her: Yes! I was so psyched about that.
You: Yeah, me too. Derek Jeter is awesome. I met him one time.
Her: You did? You are soooo lucky!
You: etc. etc. etc.

Do you see how much smoother and easier that played out? You led the conversation and captivated her interest. And you didn't have to say anything monumental. You just had to say the first thing that popped into your head (that is appropriate for the level of friendship of course).

It's all one giant mind game. You've got to get inside your head and "preach" to yourself and psych yourself up. Learn little key things like making eye contact and greeting people and when the time is right you can begin to initiate a conversation and begin to climb out of that shell.

In any case, I wish you luck dude. I know what it's like and I am here today to tell you that I am a living example that you CAN regain your self-esteem and confidence and you CAN beat this. Good luck man.:groupray:
 
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I can relate to this, but for the most part this is in the past for me (but even still I struggle sometimes in this area--meaning I don't think it ever really goes away totally).

Now, as someone who has been EXTREMELY shy and has managed to come back from that and be semi-outgoing (I'm still not extremely extroverted, but at least I finally have the confidence to hold a conversation with people and not get nervous--which I consider to be a major victory in my life), let me give you some tips and pointers that helped me.

First of all, RELAXATION. That's the crux of your problem. You have conditioned yourself into thinking the person you are talking to is better than you in some way. THEY ARE NOT. I know this sounds semi-gross, but that beautiful, cute, and/or popular girl you are talking to uses the bathroom like you, she gets sick and throws up like you do, she gets boogers (yeah that's crude I know :D ) like you do, and there's even a time of the month where she is EXTREMELY gross for 3-5 days. Yeah, I know that's kind of sick to think about, but these things make you realize that they are more human and not something to be put up on a pedastool. If you can convince yourself that this person is in most aspects the same or very similar to yourself, you can begin to relax.

Secondly, you got to have a REALIZATION about this girl. The realization is that this girl (and all girls/people) has the exact same fears and insecurities you do. Just because she's pretty doesn't mean that she doesn't think she is ugly or is insecure about the way she looks. 99.9% of ALL the girls you meet have this insecurity. I mean, you can be talking to complete BABE and she probably STILL thinks she is ugly. Girls can be extremely insecure...it's natural. How this helps you is to realize that you not only have the same "grossities" as she does, but you share the same insecurities. The same feelings and worries you have about her, she is doubt feeling them about you (at least a little bit), the difference is that she has probably learned to hide it better and APPEAR confident. And in this game, appearances are half the battle.

The last big thing is REVELATION. Revealing yourself to her (and other people) in such a way as to not convey your insecurities. It's all a mind game. If you get inside your own head and begin to talk yourself up to yourself and use things to motivate yourself, you can reveal yourself as a confident and secure person. If you give off the insecurities you are feeling by clamming up and getting nervous, she'll sense that and it'll make her uncomfortable and awkward, which in turn you will see that awkwardness in her. When that happens, because of your insecurities, you will assume that she is awkward because of YOU personally...because you think you are a loser or something. When in reality, she's only being awkward with you because she can sense your insecurity.

I said all that to say this: YOU CONTROL HOW YOU REACT TO OTHER PEOPLE. It IS in your power, believe it or not. And the major cure for this is psyching yourself up (trust me it's difficult to do at first) until after a while you begin to get comfortable with yourself and you don't have to psych yourself up anymore.

What are some ways to psych yourself up?

Here's some things I did:

1. From now on, ANYTIME you walk past a person, MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH THEM. This is a key battle in the confidence game. Making eye contact is your first step into a brave new world because this is the point that makes you insecure. EVERYBODY you meet or run into, look them square in the eye and hold their gaze, at least for a few seconds until you begin to get more comfortable with it (which DOES take time).

2. When you've gotten yourself trained to make eye contact with the people you meet, it's time to take the next step: GREETING them. You don't have to be all intense about it or say much. Just get used to making eye contact with people and THEN saying "Hi" or "How you doing?". YOu don't have to strike up a conversation with them just yet, just take baby steps at initiating eye contact and then greeting them. I promise you that this is a MAJOR chunk of the battle.

3. After this, then, you're ready for the next big hurdle: INITIATING A CONVERSATION. Contrary to popular opinion, initiating a conversation isn't extremely hard to do. When your mind goes blank, stop yourself right there, take a DEEP BREATH, and calm yourself down. Yeah, it may seem sort of weird to the other person at first, but at this point you are just using that other person to build confidence in yourself.

Conversation is a game as well. In fact, it's very much like a game of tennis. Imagine if you will, that you are playing tennis with your friend. Now imagine that your friend has a case of three tennis balls and you guys are out on the court. Casually, he lobs up the ball and serves it to you. Now, imagine if you just stood there and watched it go by and then just sort of giggled nervously. Ok, so your friend would get out another ball and lob it across the net. Imagine again that you just let it go by, until finally after 3 balls, your friend no long has any balls. They are all on your side of the court.

Conversation is just like that. EXACTLY like that. Imagine is someone comes up to you and says something to you and you just grunt out the bare minimum of "um hmmm" or "fine". You are essentially letting that ball fly past you and eventually, after so many tries your friend will be out of "balls" or intros to conversation. The key is to see the ball coming and be prepared to return it and volley it back and forth. I mean, EVENTUALLY the ball will get by one of you, but then you have a couple of other balls (or topics) in reserve that can fill out a nice conversation before you guys run dry.

Essentially, then it's like playing tennis. Here, let me give you an example of "holding the ball" and letting a conversation die:



Do you see how "You" held the ball there? Now, let me give you an example of how to "return her serve":



Do you see how much smoother and easier that played out? You led the conversation and captivated her interest. And you didn't have to say anything monumental. You just had to say the first thing that popped into your head (that is appropriate for the level of friendship of course).

It's all one giant mind game. You've got to get inside your head and "preach" to yourself and psych yourself up. Learn little key things like making eye contact and greeting people and when the time is right you can begin to initiate a conversation and begin to climb out of that shell.

In any case, I wish you luck dude. I know what it's like and I am here today to tell you that I am a living example that you CAN regain your self-esteem and confidence and you CAN beat this. Good luck man.:groupray:

Thanks so much for taking the time to write all that,and you'er right, it does take time...but you have to start somewere, I remeber when I first posted on here, I was alittle nervious to start off, I thought ppl would just say things like boring post, or cause some kind of debate. isn't that silly.:blush: thanks again.
 
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No problem chief.

I may take that and post it as an article on my website. I think a lot of these problems stem from not knowing where to start, and that can be incredibly intimidating.

In any case, I hope you start down the road to getting over this. It WILL take time, but if you keep your focus you could find yourself a lot more comfortable and laid back.
 
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