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My children all take communion. My 1.5 year old had her first taste of the wine from the tip of our priests finger right after she was baptised. I wouldn't attend a church where my children were not welcome at the table.paleodoxy said:Our branch of the Anglican/Episcopal church practices paedocommunion. (We have a six-month old daughter who will be partaking soon.)
What are the various perspectives within Anglicanism on this issue, and what are your respective opinions on this doctrine?
Thanks!
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ContraMundum said:All Christians are admissible to communion- conditionally. The conditions are few, but one of them is that one must examine one's conscience and heart.
1Co 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. 1Co 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
I don't see anything that says the babies and children can't take communion in that passage.karen freeinchristman said:Yes, but what about this scripture? Those who are pro-baby-communion haven't addressed this yet.
higgs2 said:My children all take communion. My 1.5 year old had her first taste of the wine from the tip of our priests finger right after she was baptised. I wouldn't attend a church where my children were not welcome at the table.
I am so glad to know that.Naomi4Christ said:In the CofE, there is an assurance that if your children receive in one church, they can receive anywhere. Your children would be welcome to receive in a CofE church.
When we moved to the UK and presented ourselves at the communion rail, the vicar asked us if the children received.
InnerPhyre said:How is it that children will be excluded but non-Christians are not? I read in another thread that you let the unbaptized partake.
Naomi4Christ said:It's safe to plan your vacation now
karen freeinchristman said:Yes, but what about this scripture? Those who are pro-baby-communion haven't addressed this yet.
karen freeinchristman said:Yes, but what about this scripture? Those who are pro-baby-communion haven't addressed this yet.
higgs2 said:Yes, what works for you? (You're watching our kids for us, right?)
Oh fiddle dee dee, Contra. I would think you'd get in much more metaphysical trouble by refusing the body and blood to a baptised Christian who desires to partake, no matter what their age.ContraMundum said:They can't, and they know it, but they will try because that's just what they do. For Western Christians to relax and yeild on this topic means that they are embracing a nominal Christianity, based on social values, rather than on spiritual, scriptural values. They are in effect saying that if you're baptised you're entitled to communion, regardless of your spiritual state. This kind of thinking is indicative of a backslidden, social Christianity and is not in harmony with the scriptures which devotes these verses to the dangers of communion without good confession for our benefit.
higgs2 said:Oh fiddle dee dee, Contra. I would think you'd get in much more metaphysical trouble by refusing the body and blood to a baptised Christian who desires to partake, no matter what their age.
higgs2 said:Oh fiddle dee dee, Contra. I would think you'd get in much more metaphysical trouble by refusing the body and blood to a baptised Christian who desires to partake, no matter what their age.
karen freeinchristman said:Yes, but honestly, how can you tell that a 1 1/2 year old desires to partake? They will put anything in their mouths!
I remember my son at 1.5 not getting the bread, and as I carried him out of the church he was sobbing, "I want some! I want some"!karen freeinchristman said:Yes, but honestly, how can you tell that a 1 1/2 year old desires to partake? They will put anything in their mouths!
Do you have children? You can tell they want to be included, trust me. As their conscience develops, they learn how to examine it. Do you think a 1.5 year old has a fully developed conscience that needs to be examined?ContraMundum said:How would you know whether or not they wanted to partake and how would you know they had examined their conscience? What are the consequences if you get it wrong? If they wanted it and could not communicate that desire to the priest, after having somehow proven their self examination, then it's no great loss, they are, after all still baptised and they will have another opportunity. If however, we just give communion to children to appease their parent's emotions, and thereby conveniently bypass the scriptures, there are grave dangers. Taking Holy Communion is not a right, it is conditional upon important spiritual steps.
If someone else wants to have warm gooey feelings, and casually ignore the Apostle's words. Fine, enjoy. Don't expect me to assist though, I have a duty.
Jdg 21:25 In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
Oh, and you can say the ECUSA gives communion to children because they prefer the "warm gooey feeling" to the apostle's words if that makes you feel better. But like it or not, it is a valid theological position and we don't need you to assist us.ContraMundum said:How would you know whether or not they wanted to partake and how would you know they had examined their conscience? What are the consequences if you get it wrong? If they wanted it and could not communicate that desire to the priest, after having somehow proven their self examination, then it's no great loss, they are, after all still baptised and they will have another opportunity. If however, we just give communion to children to appease their parent's emotions, and thereby conveniently bypass the scriptures, there are grave dangers. Taking Holy Communion is not a right, it is conditional upon important spiritual steps.
If someone else wants to have warm gooey feelings, and casually ignore the Apostle's words. Fine, enjoy. Don't expect me to assist though, I have a duty.
Jdg 21:25 In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
Actually, she holds her hands out properly to receive.ContraMundum said:....yes...because they don't know any better.
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