Outing out a liar...

[IzzyPop]

Personally, I always let it slide, but say you hear someone tell a tale, could be one they've been going on about for a while, fairly harmless, but you know for whatever reason it's a lie (they don't realise you know though), do you just keep quiet or do you call them up on it, or maybe just tell all your peers they're bs-ing?

Some of you must have some tales to tell....

It depends on the purpose of the lie. If they are telling fibs to seem more interesting or pump themselves up, I will usually let that slide. I worked with a very inept manager that, according to him, had led a simply amazing life. At first, I took everything he said at face value, especially the stories of a personal nature. But when the stories of his professional life didn't jibe with his current skill set (or, more pointedly, lack there of), I began to doubt everything he said. The really interesting thing was that the employees stopped respecting him primarily because of these lies. And a manager can't do their job if the workers don't respect them.

Now if the lies are harmful to someone other than the liar or for obvious gain, I will call them every time.

 

[jcook922]

Yeah, Polycarp, that is all really well said.

The notion that people can say "Oh I am a Christian but you know, I am not really violating a principle in my homosexuality or in my premarital sex, etc." is so harmful to the Church because they have even begun teaching kids that these things are not necessarily sins.

Christianity then becomes a social club.

The people who 'take away' from the Bible by making these not sins are in jeopardy of hell by misleading others and misleading children.

I do agree with you in this jmver, I know an infinite amount of "Christians" who have premarital sex, or do drugs. I think that really interferes with the message and isn't good for the religion.

I do however, think that the church should back off from being so opinionated and judgemental of the actions of non-christians. Most tend to be good folks who can let us live our lives and live their own, yet still be friends etc. The ones that aren't are the reason alot of people don't like Christians. At the same time I'm sure plenty of Christians don't like how us sinners consider the churchy goody goody types as boring/lame.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Cookster, haven't seen you in awhile.

I do agree with you in this jmver, I know an infinite amount of "Christians" who have premarital sex, or do drugs.

It's not an infinite amount. It's a great many, but being in the world is going to get to you.

I think that really interferes with the message and isn't good for the religion.

What religion is that? Jesus doesn't appear to be founding a religion in the Gospels. Neither do His disciples.

I do however, think that the church should back off from being so opinionated and judgemental of the actions of non-Christians.

I don't. And I was once blind. But now, I see. It is the very behaviors of non-Christians that in many cases Christians are to avoid at all costs. You can't do that without highlighting them and youy can't highlight them without judging them. Jesus just said not to judge people if you are doing the same things as they are. Paul reiterated that in his letter to Roman Christians. Duh.

Most tend to be good folks who can let us live our lives and live their own, yet still be friends etc.

While walking a fine line that as you have jsut shown gets crossed all too often. It seems it's better for the Chtristian to do as Peter says and leave his worldy friends alone. Peter even sounds very, very 2009-ish.

The ones that aren't are the reason alot of people don't like Christians.

Christians that behave as non and anti Christians should shut up, per Jesus. The righteous ones should be our very vocal leaders.

At the same time I'm sure plenty of Christians don't like how us sinners consider the churchy goody goody types as boring/lame.

It's laughable that you or anyone else would think that. As example, many great NFL players are goody-two-shoe Christians. And they kick more than the proverbial butt.