Our responsibility....please sign this

[rainbowprism]

The humanitarian crisis in Africa is one that we all hold responsibility for. Poverty, hunger and AIDs are the death sentences hanging over these peoples heads and they are being crippled under this burden. One doesn't need to be a billionaire to help-- for example, did you know that there is treatment that can prevent the transmission of the AIDS virus from pregnant women to their babies that costs only $12?! or you merely lend your voice in aiding the cause--These fellow brothers and sisters in Christ are dying and suffering needlessly and it is our call as Christians to minister to the least, the last and the lost. I believe that the 21st century will be remembered for what it did or didn't do with Africa. Please prayfully consider signing this petition at www.theonecampaign.org The petition allows Americans to show our leaders that we want to do more to respond to this crisis. God bless!

 

[AfricaWim]

Please don't feel that you are in any way responsible for what is happening here. I understand your feelings on this, and agree that we should do all we can to help innocent children, but the spread of aids is directly related to the promiscuity of the people. That is sin, and the people that are involved in sin is responsible for their acts, no one else.
Yes please help us to help the children that are left, but never fall for the guilt trip the leaders of Africa is trying to put on the rest of the world for their own failure to educate their own people. There is only one cure and it is clearly written in the Bible, if only leaders would take their heads out of the sand....
Please take as only my opinion and not an attempt to open debate. God Bless.

 

[rainbowprism]

What is the matter with everyone!!! Let's just all look out for #1 and not give a rat's patootie about anyone else unless there is something in it for you....it's people who care that change the world,people that don't keep it the way it is. Jesus cared for and had mercy on us and he had absolutley no reason to, we were 'dead in our transgressions' and muddy with sin, yet he came in the flesh and jumped into the pigpen to be with us....

THIS PETITION IS FOR GLOBAL AIDS AND POVERTY, AFRICA IS THE COUNTRY THAT NEEDS HELP THE MOST THOUGH. I KNOW THE WE AREN'T PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. BUT CONCERNING HOW WE HANDLE THIS, YOU BET WE ARE. YOU'D THINK THE FACT THAT WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS SHOULD BE REASON ENOUGH TO TRY TO HELP OTHERS IN NEED.

WHY DO I BOTHER?

 

[AfricaWim]

What is the matter with everyone!!!

Why get agrivated? I wasn't attacking you, or anything you wrote??????? All I said was that the rest of the world don't need to feel they are responsible for what is happening here!!??!!

THIS PETITION IS FOR GLOBAL AIDS AND POVERTY, AFRICA IS THE COUNTRY THAT NEEDS HELP THE MOST THOUGH. I KNOW THE WE AREN'T PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. BUT CONCERNING HOW WE HANDLE THIS, YOU BET WE ARE. YOU'D THINK THE FACT THAT WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS SHOULD BE REASON ENOUGH TO TRY TO HELP OTHERS IN NEED.

WHY DO I BOTHER?

OK what did I say that contradicts what you just said??
Maybe if you read what I said you would realize that I was not attacking you or saying people should not sign the petition.
Sorry if I did not make myself clear enough, but not everybody is out to try and prove what you post is wrong. Just commenting on a comment you made without any intent to belittle you.... Friends???

 

[rainbowprism]

I'm just really surprised at the majority of responses I have been getting from people from other parts of the forums where I put the same thread up. I thought this was something positive and worthwhile to do...and I have mostly just run into a giant wall of apathy. I know that people involved in sin are respnsible for thier own acts, but I don't think that should be a reason to deny compassion or help. The majority of people I have seen come to Christ have only done so after trying to do everything else themselves and once they hit bottom they look up and see they need Christ--we are called to love others in need and to disciple nations. I thought that is what I was trying to do.

 

[Rev. Smith]

Thanks, great post - I signed up and will announce it at church on the 8th.

 

[rainbowprism]

Thank you sooo much! God bless you. I pray that members of your congregation will feel led to act upon it.

 

[GodSaves]

Thanks, I signed up as well. God Bless

 

[rainbowprism]

Thank you. God bless you.

 

[Bizzlebin Imperatoris]

I am greatly in favor of stopping babies from getting their mothers' AIDS, but will this also take away the consequences of those who are doing the sinning? Also, what do you define as poverty? I know too much help can ruin a great faith. The poor are the richest in spirit.

 

[rainbowprism]

I am greatly in favor of stopping babies from getting their mothers' AIDS, but will this also take away the consequences of those who are doing the sinning? Also, what do you define as poverty? I know too much help can ruin a great faith. The poor are the richest in spirit.

Well Jesus always did a demonstration along with his proclamations. If we are claiming to love all and yet not do anything help people, then why would Jesus be appealing? Bizzlebin, I am sure you know of many testimonies when people came to Christ after a Christian ministered to them. Besides you can't evangelize someone who is lying in bed, horrifically sick and in need of medicine that is available relatively cheaply.\

Poverty means to me that nobody should go hungry, not recieve medical care or be homeless. Can I change the world and rid it totally of this? No, but the people I do help-it means the world to them.

 

[Bizzlebin Imperatoris]

I have no problem with healing those that want to change. Will even a miracle change hardened hearts though? And will a public cure increase or decrease the amount of impurity?

 

[rainbowprism]

I have no problem with healing those that want to change. Will even a miracle change hardened hearts though? ?

Well, I certainly see many examples in the Bible where Jesus healed people that weren't believers...and they became believers right after as a result of being shown thier spiritual blindness.

As far as the public thing goes...I'm not sure how that fits in here. But I will say that there were some times where miracles were done in public as well as private settings. If you're saying public to mean like a big spectacle then I would say no, because that borders on disorderly actions. If you're saying to minister to the least, the last, and the lost on thier home turf, then yes sometimes you gotta.

 

[Bizzlebin Imperatoris]

Well I suppose if the cure causes people to come to Christ instead of giving them an excuse to be impure, I may support it.

 

[rainbowprism]

Well I suppose if the cure causes people to come to Christ instead of giving them an excuse to be impure, I may support it.

I'm not sure I follow the excuse to be impure thing. Are you saying that we shouldn't help people that have problems? Because by helping them you aren't condoning thier behavior but showing them a way to get out of the hole they dug for themselves, sometimes you can't do it on your own. Also, I would like to remind you that we humans were completley and disgustingly impure before the eyes of God and He gave us His son Jesus to serve as the mediator.... none of us can judge another's sin or bahaviors, that's not our duties. Before I accepted Christ and before you accepted Christ, we were nothing but dead in our trangressions. Sin is sin....it doesn't matter how it manifests. But we are commanded to minister to people in need and ultimatley help bring them to Christ.

 

[Bizzlebin Imperatoris]

I agree with you there, but I am referring to the people who will never have consequences if a full cure is found. Those that are cured now may very well be grateful and turn from their ways, but what about those who have no consequences?

 

[rainbowprism]

I agree with you there, but I am referring to the people who will never have consequences if a full cure is found. Those that are cured now may very well be grateful and turn from their ways, but what about those who have no consequences?

Bizzlebin, you are being ridiculous with me at this point. The wages of ALL sin is death (even the sin you and I do-unless you've figured a way not to die). I asked for people in this thread to either sign this petition or don't.

 

[Bizzlebin Imperatoris]

Sorry if I sound silly, I am just not sure at this point. There are good things and bad things both that can come out of this. I will pray about it more

 

[rainbowprism]

Sorry if I sound silly, I am just not sure at this point. There are good things and bad things both that can come out of this. I will pray about it more

I'm sorry Bizzle, I wasn't trying to sound harsh. I was just trying to let you know that I wasn't forcing myself on anyone...this should be something that you either want to do or not. Either way is fine...not everything is for everyone.