Our professors hate you. But....

[paul becke]

Nice item here, from Uncommon Descent:

“Our professors hate you. But…” | Uncommon Descent

 

[lesliedellow]

Nice item here, from Uncommon Descent:

“Our professors hate you. But…” | Uncommon Descent

They must be freshers. Francisco Ayala, himself a Christian, tells of students who come to him saying, "I will write what you want me to about Evolution, but don't expect me to believe any of it." Then time passes, the evidence is set before them, and they find they have no choice but to believe it. In typical fundamentalist fashion, they then lose their faith, which gives Ayala no joy at all.

 

[Syd the Human]

Nice item here, from Uncommon Descent:

“Our professors hate you. But…” | Uncommon Descent

Not really. It is fine to disagree with a theory after fully researching the science behind it. I have read about a scientist who disagrees with the current theory of gravity, and they go about it in a scientific matter. The same should go for the theory of evolution. But, the sources that the student was using has a very obvious bias that will obscure any actual scientific evidence. That is probably why the school was so upset. For example, would you want people to learn what Christianity is from Richard Dawkins? His information is very biased and will skew anything and everything into a negative light.

 

[SLP]

Great anecdote. The thing about anecdotes is that they are almost always made-up. If anyone 'hates' the DI, it is the folks that value honesty and scientific integrity. Which is why YECs and their ilk just love the DI.

 

[paul becke]

What rare intellectual integrity, as an atheist, this professor, Dr Richard Lumsden, showed, in his conversion to Christianity on the empirical, scientific evidence!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS5j3XccmUM

If you want a good laugh, read the ragings of the school-boy numpties, mocking a professor who is the dean of post-graduate studies at Tulane University.

But look at all the video-clips on that YouTube page. The evolutionists seem to be well and truly on the run. Their corporate, 'bought and paid for noise-machine' seems to be grinding down at some speed.

 

[HitchSlap]

Wait, wut... ? You don't accept ToE?

 

[Armoured]

Bought and paid for?

 

[bhsmte]

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[juvenissun]

They must be freshers. Francisco Ayala, himself a Christian, tells of students who come to him saying, "I will write what you want me to about Evolution, but don't expect me to believe any of it." Then time passes, the evidence is set before them, and they find they have no choice but to believe it. In typical fundamentalist fashion, they then lose their faith, which gives Ayala no joy at all.

A VERY stupid teacher. Not qualified and should be fired.
A teacher can argue on anything, include the so-called truth.

I am a teacher. Try me.

 

[driewerf]

Nice item here, from Uncommon Descent:

“Our professors hate you. But…” | Uncommon Descent

From your link:

And she looked left and looked right and lowered her voice and said, “Can you tell me what the Discovery Institute is?” Well, I said, we’re a scientific think tank, and we’re investigating the evidence for intelligent design and challenging standard Darwin. She says, “I thought so!” She said, “Our professors hate you.” And then she motioned to three other waiters and waitresses. She says, “I’m a bio major at the U, and so are they, and, I’m telling you, our professors hate you. But then we go on your website and we see those animations of all those little machines and we say, ‘No way did that evolve.’”

Clearly made up
*the waitress doesn't know what de Discovery Institute is, but she and her friends go to their wbesite to see these "animations"
* computer animations of how DNA is replicated, proteins fold, or what ever aren't used at a university, nono. Only DI use these, not major teaching institutions
*university professors spend their teaching time to vent their hate for the DI, instead simply teaching.

Comletely made up, and a severe breaching of the ninth commandment.

 

[TLK Valentine]

A VERY stupid teacher. Not qualified and should be fired.
A teacher can argue on anything, include the so-called truth.

I am a teacher. Try me.

What subject do you teach again?

 

[Paradoxum]

What rare intellectual integrity, as an atheist, this professor, Dr Richard Lumsden, showed, in his conversion to Christianity on the empirical, scientific evidence!

Intellectual integrity isn't that rare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS5j3XccmUM

This guy seems pretty ignorant of evolution. I'm no expert, but I can give a better answer to those question that apparently stumped him.

 

[Nithavela]

How dare you slander those people, who spend their time, their nerves and their heartblood on teaching and furthering a subject of science, spending countless hours education unknowing freshlings in their field, instead of going into the industry to rack in the big bucks and obtain the big research money, just because they love their science so much and want to share the fire that burns in their heart for it with others?

Shame on you.

 

[juvenissun]

What subject do you teach again?

The way I argue on issues is not limited to what I teach/learn. It comes from methodology and inspiration. It covers every issue about everything. Like Noah said in the movie: "I am not alone".

 

[TLK Valentine]

The way I argue on issues is not limited to what I teach/learn. It comes from methodology and inspiration. It covers every issue about everything. Like Noah said in the movie: "I am not alone".

So, nothing.

 

[bhsmte]

So, nothing.

Didn't he claim to be a geology professor at a college at one point and then the wheels sort of feel off that claim?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Didn't he claim to be a geology professor at a college at one point and then the wheels sort of feel off that claim?

Oh, that claim was epically destroyed.

 

[bhsmte]

Oh, that claim was epically destroyed.

And I believe the claim has been made more than once and destroyed more than once.

 

[TLK Valentine]

And I believe the claim has been made more than once and destroyed more than once.

Indeed -- I wanted to see if he'd stick with that bogus claim or try another one.

Apparently, he's chosen to do neither.

 

[paul becke]

Again from Uncommon Descent, here:

Physicist Rob Sheldon to speak on science, book of Genesis | Uncommon Descent


Bornagain77
.......
1.
The subtitle puts it best: “Genesis Science”:
“Like You Never Saw Genesis Before”
To skeptics who think that Genesis is just a collection of myths that is of no relevance to modern science, I remind them that Genesis is the only ancient Holy Book to get the creation event of the universe right. And I hold that the creation of all physical reality is certainly not a minor point to get correct!

“I now believe that the universe was brought into existence by an infinite intelligence. I believe that the universe’s intricate laws manifest what scientists have called the Mind of God. I believe that life and reproduction originate in a divine Source. Why do I believe this, given that I expounded and defended atheism for more than a half century? The short answer is this: this is the world picture, as I see it, that has emerged from modern science.”
Anthony Flew – world’s leading intellectual atheist for most of his adult life until a few years shortly before his death
The Case for a Creator – Lee Strobel (Nov. 25, 2012) – video
The Case for a Creator
The best data we have [concerning the Big Bang] are exactly what I would have predicted, had I nothing to go on but the five books of Moses, the Psalms, the bible as a whole.
Dr. Arno Penzias, Nobel Laureate in Physics – co-discoverer of the Cosmic Background Radiation – as stated to the New York Times on March 12, 1978
“Certainly there was something that set it all off,,, I can’t think of a better theory of the origin of the universe to match Genesis”
Robert Wilson – Nobel laureate – co-discover Cosmic Background Radiation
,,, ‘And if you’re curious about how Genesis 1, in particular, fairs. Hey, we look at the Days in Genesis as being long time periods, which is what they must be if you read the Bible consistently, and the Bible scores 4 for 4 in Initial Conditions and 10 for 10 on the Creation Events’
Hugh Ross – Evidence For Intelligent Design Is Everywhere; video
Hugh Ross - Evidence For Intelligent Design Is Everywhere - Video
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In fact, besides the creation of all physical reality, there is a quite a good track record for Theistic predictions in general in modern science:

1. Naturalism/Materialism predicted time-space energy-matter always existed. Whereas Theism predicted time-space energy-matter were created. Big Bang cosmology now strongly indicates that time-space energy-matter had a sudden creation event approximately 14 billion years ago.
2. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that the universe is a self sustaining system that is not dependent on anything else for its continued existence. Theism predicted that God upholds this universe in its continued existence. Breakthroughs in quantum mechanics reveal that this universe is dependent on a ‘non-local’, beyond space and time, cause for its continued existence.
3. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that consciousness is a ‘emergent property’ of material reality and thus should have no particularly special position within material reality. Theism predicts consciousness precedes material reality and therefore, on that presupposition, consciousness should have a ‘special’ position within material reality. Quantum Mechanics reveals that consciousness has a special, even a central, position within material reality. -
4. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the rate at which time passed was constant everywhere in the universe. Theism predicted God is eternal and is outside of time. – Special Relativity has shown that time, as we understand it, is relative and comes to a complete stop at the speed of light. (Psalm 90:4 – 2 Timothy 1:9) -
5. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the universe did not have life in mind and that life was ultimately an accident of time and chance. Theism predicted this universe was purposely created by God with man in mind. Scientists find the universe is exquisitely fine-tuned for carbon-based life to exist in this universe. Moreover it is found, when scrutinizing the details of chemistry, that not only is the universe fine-tuned for carbon based life, but is specifically fine-tuned for life like human life (M. Denton).-
6. Naturalism/Materialism predicted complex life in this universe should be fairly common. Theism predicted the earth is extremely unique in this universe. Statistical analysis of the hundreds of required parameters which enable complex organic life to be possible on earth gives strong indication the earth is extremely unique in this universe (Gonzalez). -
7. Naturalism/Materialism predicted it took a very long time for life to develop on earth. Theism predicted life to appear abruptly on earth after water appeared on earth (Genesis 1:10-11). Geo-chemical evidence from the oldest sedimentary rocks ever found on earth indicates that complex photo-synthetic life has existed on earth as long as water has been on the face of earth. -
8. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the first life to be relatively simple. Theism predicted that God is the source for all life on earth. The simplest life ever found on Earth is far more complex than any machine man has made through concerted effort. (Michael Denton PhD) -
9. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the gradual unfolding of life would (someday) be self-evident in the fossil record. Theism predicted complex and diverse animal life to appear abruptly in the seas in God’s fifth day of creation. The Cambrian Explosion shows a sudden appearance of many different and completely unique fossils within a very short “geologic resolution time” in the Cambrian seas. -
10. Naturalism/Materialism predicted there should be numerous transitional fossils found in the fossil record, Theism predicted sudden appearance and rapid diversity within different kinds found in the fossil record. Fossils are consistently characterized by sudden appearance of a group/kind in the fossil record(disparity), then rapid diversity within that group/kind, and then long term stability and even deterioration of variety within the overall group/kind, and within the specific species of the kind, over long periods of time. Of the few dozen or so fossils claimed as transitional, not one is uncontested as a true example of transition between major animal forms out of millions of collected fossils. -
11. Naturalism/Materialism predicted animal speciation should happen on a somewhat constant basis on earth. Theism predicted man was the last species created on earth – Man (our genus ‘modern homo’ as distinct from the highly controversial ‘early homo&#8217 is the last generally accepted major fossil form to have suddenly appeared in the fossil record. (Tattersall; Luskin)–
12. Naturalism/Materialism predicted much of the DNA code was junk. Theism predicted we are fearfully and wonderfully made – ENCODE research into the DNA has revealed a “biological jungle deeper, denser, and more difficult to penetrate than anyone imagined.”. -
13. Naturalism/Materialism predicted a extremely beneficial and flexible mutation rate for DNA which was ultimately responsible for all the diversity and complexity of life we see on earth. Theism predicted only God created life on earth – The mutation rate to DNA is overwhelmingly detrimental. Detrimental to such a point that it is seriously questioned whether there are any truly beneficial, information building, mutations whatsoever. (M. Behe; JC Sanford) -
14. Naturalism/Materialism predicted morality is subjective and illusory. Theism predicted morality is objective and real. Morality is found to be deeply embedded in the genetic responses of humans. As well, morality is found to be deeply embedded in the structure of the universe. Embedded to the point of eliciting physiological responses in humans before humans become aware of the morally troubling situation and even prior to the event even happening.
15. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that we are merely our material bodies with no transcendent component to our being, and that we die when our material bodies die. Theism predicted that we have minds/souls that are transcendent of our bodies that live past the death of our material bodies. Transcendent, and ‘conserved’ (cannot be created or destroyed) ‘non-local’, beyond space-time
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