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Gentlemantech48

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I know that both males and females are caught up in this push to Socialism/Communism but there's something about looking a beautiful young woman who's heart is so hard and who has been so deceived by Satan that my heart aches and tears come to my eyes. I think about my own daughter who is in her 40's now but I remember when she was college age. By the grace of God, she was able to ignore the liberal teachings of the University professors and is now a pro-life, born again Christian. What if she had bought into the liberal/socialist/communist agenda? How much more my heart would break! The older these young ladies get, the less likely they are to turn from their wicked ways and receive Jesus Christ. That's just a statistical surety. It is my belief that only 10-15% of the U.S. population are True, Born Again Christians! Jesus said "13Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and MANY enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a FEW find it. 15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.…
 

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I know that both males and females are caught up in this push to Socialism/Communism

Don't worry, neither Gloria La Riva of the Party for Socialism and Liberation nor Alyson Kennedy of the Socialist Workers Party are on enough ballots to win the election.
 
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thankful our daughter is at home this year and
missing one year of in-person middle school

no influence from peers

keeping her sweet & kind one more year
I pray for you that she has the strength from you to continue to avoid the pressure of turning to Socialism/Communism! God Bless.
 
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Just pointing out this is the open section of the forums. If you don't want non-Christians commenting on your post you might want to move it to one of the Christian only forums.
Might as well say my piece to non-Christians. It may or may not make a difference.
 
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Just pointing out this is the open section of the forums. If you don't want non-Christians commenting on your post you might want to move it to one of the Christian only forums.

Good point, but if the OP can handle it, I say leave where it is...could be more interesting than its already proven to be.
 
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Well in that case.

I know plenty of Christians that are liberal and don't seem any less Christian to me. In fact, they act more Christian in my eyes since they actively care for others. I don't see how Capitalism or Communism match up with Christianity either. It is like comparing political systems to systems of belief. It doesn't compute in my mind.
 
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Jesus recommended liberal acts of deliverance:

Luke 14:12 (WEB) He also said to the one who had invited him, “When you make a dinner or a supper, don’t call your friends, nor your brothers, nor your kinsmen, nor rich neighbors, or perhaps they might also return the favor, and pay you back. 13 But when you make a feast, ask the poor, the maimed, the lame, or the blind; 14 and you will be blessed, because they don’t have the resources to repay you. For you will be repaid in the resurrection of the righteous.”

Those who think Social Security is Communism may not have much sympathy from retirees who paid in for decades before they started to get back what they paid in.
 
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To the OP, I think you'll need to clarify a few points for us...as I feel that there are a few distinctions that are being overlooked.

You mentioned a couple phrases and terms, and in the way you worded them, appear to be linking them together, when it's more of a case that one overlaps the other in a few areas.

You mentioned:
this push to Socialism/Communism
liberal teachings of the University professors
liberal/socialist/communist agenda


...couple different conflations happening here so we'll just unpack them one at a time.

Which one is the push for? Communism or Socialism? They're two different economic ideologies. They share some overlap, but they're not synonymous with each other.

"Liberal", from the standpoint of its contemporary definition, simply means a system that combines aspects of civil liberties with aspects of social justice, and favors a mixed economy.

Many of the more granular aspects of "liberalism" (in a contemporary sense) have nothing to do with a person's position when it comes to which entity should maintain ownership over the means of the production.

For instance, a person's stance on issues like gay marriage, abortion, gun control, etc... have nothing to do with their position on private vs. collective vs. state ownership of industry.


When you say "this push", what exactly are you referring to? Any aspect of our current mixed economy that people see as some sort of "push toward state control" are aspects that have already been under state control for a long long time. For instance, on healthcare, switching from our fiat insurance-proxy model to a single payer model isn't a "push toward socialism/communism", it's simply changing an entity, that's under state control, to another form of state control.

-Medicaid was established in 1965
-Federal Licensing requirements for physicians were made into law in 1912, and several states had already had state licensing requirements for doctors going back to the mid-1800's.

For business in general...business licensing in the US first showed up in 1872.


So is it really a case where there's a push for more state control? Or is the real objection that certain groups are pushing for a change to how the state is controlling it?...in particular, changing it to be inclusive to ideas that people on the far-right want to omit for personal/religious reasons?


Now there are entities out there who are advocating for true socialism, but they're not of any quantifiable numbers. As big of a problem as Antifa is (and many in that camp truly are socialists or communists), in terms of a voter base, they're still a small number in comparison to a 330 million population and certainly not enough to actually influence any real policy.

...and even the ones in government who claim to advocate for it either A) don't know what it actually means (Like AOC), or B) are just using the 'pop-culture' definition of it (Like Bernie) to describe "What Denmark has"...which is actually a form of market economy known as the "Nordic Model" (as Lars Rasmussen, Danish PM, had to come to Harvard and clarify for the over-zealous 22 year olds)
 
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It is my belief that only 10-15% of the U.S. population are True, Born Again Christians!
Well, it’s a good thing, then, that one needn’t be a true, born again Christian to be a citizen of this fair land.
 
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Frankly, this kind of attitude is why I no longer have any positive connotations of the word "Christian", as in phrases like "with Christian charity" or "it's the Christian thing to do" etc. For a decade or so after leaving the Church, I continued to give some positive notions to that word that had once been part of my identity, but not for the last few years.

I'm sorry for those fine people on this board, in real life, and even a few on this thread who are also Christians getting caught in this sweep.

No worries, the word "Christian" doesn't particularly mean much nowadays since being co-opted by right-wing politics.
 
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I know that both males and females are caught up in this push to Socialism/Communism but there's something about looking a beautiful young woman who's heart is so hard and who has been so deceived by Satan that my heart aches and tears come to my eyes. I think about my own daughter who is in her 40's now but I remember when she was college age. By the grace of God, she was able to ignore the liberal teachings of the University professors and is now a pro-life, born again Christian. What if she had bought into the liberal/socialist/communist agenda? How much more my heart would break! The older these young ladies get, the less likely they are to turn from their wicked ways and receive Jesus Christ. That's just a statistical surety.
I have a cousin who sounds like that. She actually had to moderate her views a bit once she got out of college just to survive. And family eventually gets sick of fighting each other, she's included in this. She's still very liberal, but at least she is capable of having a civil conversation at length with me again.
 
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