Our 2nd Amendment right to bear arms keeps our government from becoming Totalitarian.

[justbyfaith]

'nuff said!

 

[kiwimac]

Not when they have Nukes, Drones, Tanks, Battleships, F-35s etc. and you have semi-auto weaponry.

 

[mark kennedy]

No, it gives them a reason to militarize the police.

 

[sfs]

So what keeps the governments of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Great Britain, France, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland, Belgium, and Holland from becoming totalitarian?

 

[justbyfaith]

I'm just saying that the 2nd Amendment was included in our Constitution because we didn't have the right to bear arms from Great Britain. They sought to be totalitarian over the New World, as with other colonizations. It was also included as a safeguard against such a thing happening again, we wanted to learn from history. We came over from England because we didn't have religious freedom. Without the 2nd Amendment, the 1st amendment won't be far behind and we will not even have the freedom to be ourselves, we will be living in George Orwell's 1984.

 

[archer75]

But what keeps those other gov'ts listed in post 4 from being totalitarian?

And how does it work this prevention?

 

[justbyfaith]

They are tota!itarian, if they don't have an equivalent of the 2nd amendment.

 

[archer75]

They are tota!itarian, if they don't have an equivalent of the 2nd amandment.

That's not what totalitarian means.

 

[sfs]

They are tota!itarian, if they don't have an equivalent of the 2nd amandment.

Say what? Canada is totalitarian? Perhaps, rather than just deciding in advance that your idea is correct and that only a constitutional right to bear arms can prevent totalitarianism, you might consider testing your idea against the real world. In the real world, lots of countries aren't totalitarian without most of their citizens being armed.

 

[justbyfaith]

A citizen has the right to protect himself from such things as illegal search and seizure.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

So what keeps the governments of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Great Britain, France, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland, Belgium, and Holland from becoming totalitarian?

Nothing They all signed up, totally.

 

[archer75]

A citizen has the rigt to protect himself from such things as illegal search and seizure.

This claim has nothing to do with your prior claim, that a country without a "right to bear arms" has a totalitarian government.

 

[justbyfaith]

In the real world, the United States has a history. Evidently you didn't do so well in that subject. I did okay in it, but I know enough to understand that all of the Constitution is important.

 

[archer75]

In thd real world, the United States has a history. Evidently you didn't do so well in that subject. I did okay in it, but I know enough to understand that all of the Constitution is important.

You keep changing topics. That makes it difficult to engage with you. Are you playing a joke on us? If not, can we return to the actual topic that you proposed?

 

[justbyfaith]

It is not off topic in the slightest.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Trusting and relying on YHVH (God) by grace through faith in Jesus is A LOT more important, in any and every counttry.

 

[archer75]

If "all of the Constitution is important," as you say, then why has it been amended so many times? Amendments can even repeal other amendments. If a new amendment repealed the second, would that amendment be important?

 

[R. Hartono]

That doesnt prevent them from killing JFK

 

[kiwimac]

They are tota!itarian, if they don't have an equivalent of the 2nd amendment.

Comes as a surprise to me not to mention the citizens of the other countries in that list.

 

[justbyfaith]

If "all of the Constitution is important," as you say, then why has it been amended so many times? Amendments can even repeal other amendments. If a new amendment repealed the second, would that amendment be important?

The next step after that would be to repeal the first amendment, at which time certain Americans would fight. But since they won't have the right to bear arms, they will be fighting with their fists against a totalitarian, Antichrist government implementing the mark of the beast on everyone. God please let it be a pre-tribulation rapture! That is all I have to say...