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Other countries are doing it...

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And NOBODY else is guilty?
I am sure there are. But the vibes that I am getting from you is that you were expecting to find some proof that Trump was guilty of some crimes only to discover that democrats are the ones being implicated. Which explains why democrats are suddenly silent. All this talk about the Epstine files and how every other event was just a "distraction," but when millions of files are released, Trump still remains unscathed.
 
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I am sure there are. But the vibes that I am getting from you is that you were expecting to find some proof that Trump was guilty of some crimes only to discover that democrats are the ones being implicated.
I cannot believe people are falling for this. There have been months of steps taken in this obvious cover up.

And you just trot it out as if none of those things happenned?


Which explains why democrats are suddenly silent.
What are you even talking about?

All this talk about the Epstine files and how every other event was just a "distraction," but when millions of files are released, Trump still remains unscathed.


America is falling into despotism because people don't pay attention and turn off reason.
 
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I cannot believe people are falling for this. There have been months of steps taken in this obvious cover up.
Perhaps this thread should be moved to the "conspiracy theory" section?
 
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They shouldn't have needed public awareness and pressure to do their job.
I agree. And yet here we are in VERY different circumstances.


However I have doubts that there's detailed documentation of individuals assaulting children.
Why do you have doubts?
Like people were hired to watch what was going on and document the details.
Well, bin Sulyamen sent an email to Epstein thanking him for the torture video.

Why are files being inappropriately redacted by the DOJ? These are not innocent questions and mistakes.

If we're concerned about justice for these youth and children, then I would assume they would be pursued with the GREATEST of vigor.

We do not see that happening in America....do we? We see no charges, no invesgitations (I'm aware of)
 
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Perhaps this thread should be moved to the "conspiracy theory" section?
I can't imagine being SOOOO Desperate to support a politician.

I posted news articles from other countries where people are being held accountable and you just try to deny reality.

I have to block you.

No offence but this is not a level of perception of reality I am prepared to deal with.
 
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I cannot believe people are falling for this. There have been months of steps taken in this obvious cover up.
If there's a cover-up it's been going on for several administrations.
 
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I can't imagine being SOOOO Desperate to support a politician.

I posted news articles from other countries where people are being held accountable and you just try to deny reality.

I have to block you.

No offence but this is not a level of perception of reality I am prepared to deal with.
Reality is tough for some people to swallow.
 
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If there's a cover-up it's been going on for several administrations.
It's fascinating how you are harping on this soooooooooooooo hard.

I mean, I keep agreeing with you, but you seem so FOCUSSED on it; on some past thing. We have this now we can deal with and we have this now we could change and affect change.
 
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I agree. And yet here we are in VERY different circumstances.
I'm not seeing any difference as far as what several AGs and heads of the DOJ knew/know.
Why do you have doubts?
Well how would that work? The abuser wrote it all down and put in an Epstein file?
Well, bin Sulyamen sent an email to Epstein thanking him for the torture video.
That could be anything. There is commercial legal pornography that has bizarre and disturbing content. I'm not saying that's what was being referenced, but it could be. Nobody knows.
Why are files being inappropriately redacted by the DOJ? These are not innocent questions and mistakes.

If we're concerned about justice for these youth and children, then I would assume they would be pursued with the GREATEST of vigor.

We do not see that happening in America....do we? We see no charges, no invesgitations (I'm aware of)
No victims have implicated anyone other than Andrew and someone else besides Epstein and Maxwell. Quite possibly the other abusers were not anyone recognizable. Why the redactions? I don't know but it seems anything made public like the JFK files, as one example, always end up redacted. There was a pretty thorough investigation.
 
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It's fascinating how you are harping on this soooooooooooooo hard.

I mean, I keep agreeing with you, but you seem so FOCUSSED on it; on some past thing.
It's not a past thing, it's a case that's been ongoing for 20 years. The whole of it has to be taken into consideration.
We have this now we can deal with and we have this now we could change and affect change.
How are you and I going to affect change?
 
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No victims have implicated anyone other than Andrew and someone else besides Epstein and Maxwell.
Whoa. That is factually inaccurate.


Why the redactions? I don't know but it seems anything made public like the JFK files, as one example, always end up redacted.
Oh...to be clear I have NO problems with redactions. Redacting victim's identifying information is crucial.
I have a bigger problem with some of the incriminating emails having thier senders being blocked out.
 
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Whoa. That is factually inaccurate.
Who else have they said abused them, as in what names did they give?
Oh...to be clear I have NO problems with redactions. Redacting victim's identifying information is crucial.
I have a bigger problem with some of the incriminating emails having thier senders being blocked out.
What incriminating email are you talking about?
 
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It's fascinating how you are harping on this soooooooooooooo hard.

I mean, I keep agreeing with you, but you seem so FOCUSSED on it; on some past thing. We have this now we can deal with and we have this now we could change and affect change.
Sometimes we all find ourselves overwhelmed and frustrated. Remember that although we live in a broken and fallen world, God is still in control. In the Book of Ecclesiastes, Solomon also expressed his frustration when he saw injustice and wicked people living their carefree lives while the righteous suffered under their feet. It is at moments like this that we should fast from social media and news networks that constantly feed us addictive poison and reflect on the things of God and what He is doing. He has a plan and is working behind the scenes, although the curtain is closed on the stage and we cannot see. My humble recommendation is that if this is bothering you that much, it would be good to take a break from the forums and watching the news, and focus on whatever gives you peace and happiness. Spend time with your family, read that book that you never had time to read, or start that hobby that you always found interesting. Personally, I recommend reading the Bible and spending time in prayer, asking God to give you clarity. I know this topic feels important to you now, which is understandable. But do not forget that there are hundreds of things that are far more important. Time is short, so use it wisely and where it actually counts.
 
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One is pointing out that Democrats are just as guilty of it, and therefore voting more in probably wouldn't be a solution.
Voting better Republicans and Democrats is likely to be the only reasonable election strategy.
 

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No victims have implicated anyone other than Andrew and someone else besides Epstein and Maxwell. Quite possibly the other abusers were not anyone recognizable. Why the redactions? I don't know but it seems anything made public like the JFK files, as one example, always end up redacted. There was a pretty thorough investigation.
That's not even close to being true. The reason Massie and Khanna knew for certain that files were missing is because the victims told them the names to look for. The Transparency Act - which Mr. Trump or his autopen signed - specifically spelled out that victim names (and faces) and ONLY victim names were to be redacted and that every redaction had to have a written explanation for the redaction. This was violated repeatedly.
 
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Voting better Republicans and Democrats is likely to be the only reasonable election strategy.
And possibly third party candidates.
 

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Voting better Republicans and Democrats is likely to be the only reasonable election strategy.
hmmm i like this phrase....BETTER.

I agree.