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well, it does if you know what John was doing at the time the angel visited him.What difference would that make? Unless you want to say all the English versions are wrong, which would also make most of the lexicons wrong as well? It still doesn't answer why the angel said, "Don't do that, you must only [insert word] God."
right, so something else is going on which is why the angel reacted the way he did and rebuked John as opposed to when Moses did the same act to his father-in-law and wasn’t rebuked.Again, that does not explain why the angel said, "Don't do that for me. Do that for God." So even if you want to say the meaning of the word is broad, here it clearly seems to mean worship. It's like saying the word for virgin in the NT for Mary is wrong since where it is quoted from in the OT is a broad meaning.
right, so something else is going on which is why the angel reacted the way he did and rebuked John as opposed to when Moses did the same act to his father-in-law and wasn’t rebuked.
well, what was John doing when the angel approached him?Please, open my mind to the scriptures. If you can explain the Greek, that would be beneficial to me. I stand before the Word of God. I submit to it. So if you can show that John was making a sacrifice at the time he did that (or whatever else it would be, IDK) then please tell me. But I am asking you to be explicit since ambiguity in this is not good. There is far too much ambiguity in the Church now. We need to be intentional and clear about what the Bible says.
well, what was John doing when the angel approached him?
sure it doesIt does not say what he was doing.
sure it does
it says at the very beginning when he has his vision, that he was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day.Please tell me what he was doing. I see what he was told to write. I do not see what he was actually doing.
it says at the very beginning when he has his vision, that he was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day.
In Orthodox culture, when meeting a priest, it is customary to kiss the priest's right hand ( I won't go into the historical and cultural reasons behind it).Again, that does not explain why the angel said, "Don't do that for me. Do that for God." So even if you want to say the meaning of the word is broad, here it clearly seems to mean worship. It's like saying the word for virgin in the NT for Mary is wrong since where it is quoted from in the OT is a broad meaning.
John was not alone on the island. He had Prochorus who was his scribe, as well as a small Christian community around him.I don't see your point. John was in Patmos, an isolated island, where you say that Christians cannot worship outside of the communion of the Church (as I pointed to an example of a lone Christian living in Afghanistan).
But adoring God is not worship to you.
he wasn’t alone. he was there with other Christians, one of whom was his disciple St Prochorus. so he wasn’t like your example. Patmos was a penal colony where some Christians were sent.I don't see your point. John was in Patmos, an isolated island, where you say that Christians cannot worship outside of the communion of the Church (as I pointed to an example of a lone Christian living in Afghanistan).
So if there is a Christian living in Afghanistan, for example, who is going solo, they have no way to worship God?
he wasn’t alone. he was there with other Christians, one of whom was his disciple St Prochorus. so he wasn’t like your example. Patmos was a penal colony where some Christians were sent.
praise God!And today it is the Monastery of St. John the Theologian, the Beloved Disciple, whose members include the recently reposed Metropolitan Kallistos Ware, may his memory be eternal, a great teaching bishop whose lectures along with those of Fr. John Behr were instrumental in persuading me that the Orthodox Church that had fascinated me since my early childhood was the Church where I belonged, and whose books, especially The Orthodox Way, were instrumental in my formation as an Orthodox Christian.
praise God!
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