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Extol.
worshipping involves a sacrificial offering. extolling doesn’t necessarily involve a sacrificial offering. extolling is almost done in conjunction with the offering, but what makes something worship is the sacrifice.Extol.
what makes something worship is the sacrifice.
sure, read the Bible. what did the priests do in the Temple and the Tabernacle? read guys like St Ignatius of Antioch or St Justin Martyr or the Didache who go into 1st and 2nd century worship to see what the earliest Christians said.Can you make your case for that?
sure, read the Bible. what did the priests do in the Temple and the Tabernacle? read guys like St Ignatius of Antioch or St Justin Martyr or the Didache who go into 1st and 2nd century worship to see what the earliest Christians said.
if you check out the first hand sources, it’s hard to make a case against it.
I started with a Biblical case. God is specific to what priests do in the Temple and Tabernacle.I was asking for a Biblical case, but whatever.
I started with a Biblical case. God is specific to what priests do in the Temple and Tabernacle.
The other thing is aside from Sacrifice, the Orthodox reserve Adoration for God alone, because to Adore anything other than God, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, such as the false gods of the Muslims or the Mormons, is to engage in idolatry.
well, God never made the Temple optional, and that was the design God gave Moses. nowhere is there worship apart from the sacrifice of the community.I don't have a problem with thinking worship is done with a sacrifice. I have a problem thinking that is the only way we worship God. That's what needs a Biblical case.
nowhere is there worship apart from the sacrifice of the community.
not according to how God tells us to worship Him. of course, God takes into account our situation and what we can or cannot do.So if there is a Christian living in Afghanistan, for example, who is going solo, they have no way to worship God?
however, that doesn’t change the fact that Biblical worship is centralized on sacrificial offering.
well, I don’t know of any specific verse, aside to say when God tells Moses how He wants His people to worship Him, it involves sacrificial offering.Right. That's what I need a verse for that says something to this effect. Like, if you can say it than it should be easy enough for a Biblical author to say it. I don't believe any Biblical author actually said, "Worship can only be done through a sacrifice." In fact, I think we have Biblical evidence to the contrary such as when John the Evangelist worships an angel and the angel tells him not to worship them.
well, I don’t know of any specific verse, aside to say when God tells Moses how He wants His people to worship Him, it involves sacrificial offering.
are you sure there’s no nuance to that considering it was written in Greek and not English?That's fine. I'm just saying worship is not limited to that. Otherwise, the angel would not have said not to worship them, which is an affirmation that it was actually worshiping.
"Then I fell at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers and sisters who hold firmly to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God, because the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”" (Revelation 19:10)
are you sure there’s no nuance to that considering it was written in Greek and not English?
The word that has been translated as "worship" is "προσκυνησαι", which has a fairly broad range of meaning as opposed to "λατρεία", which is specific to God.That's fine. I'm just saying worship is not limited to that. Otherwise, the angel would not have said not to worship them, which is an affirmation that it was actually worshiping.
"Then I fell at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers and sisters who hold firmly to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God, because the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”" (Revelation 19:10)
The word that has been translated as "worship" is "προσκυνησαι", which has a fairly broad range of meaning as opposed to "λατρεία", which is specific to God.
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