Orthodox blog

[Wildflower3]

Hey guys, my friend has put out an EO blog. If you're interested:

Spiritual Pilgrim | Nicholas Smith | Substack

This is the blog of a ridiculous man. Feel free to laugh and scoff but the idea here is that we can come here and share a little bit about what it means to be human and this blog suggests that being human is to be much more than we think it is. Click to read Spiritual Pilgrim, by Nicholas...

nasmith.substack.com

 

[AlexB23]

Hey guys, my friend has put out an EO blog. If you're interested:

Spiritual Pilgrim | Nicholas Smith | Substack

This is the blog of a ridiculous man. Feel free to laugh and scoff but the idea here is that we can come here and share a little bit about what it means to be human and this blog suggests that being human is to be much more than we think it is. Click to read Spiritual Pilgrim, by Nicholas...

nasmith.substack.com

Is your friend's blog based upon the Bible/scripture, and church history? I hope so, cos both are important for Christians, whether that be Orthodox, Catholic or some Protestants.

 

[Wildflower3]

Is your friend's blog based upon the Bible/scripture, and church history? I hope so, cos both are important for Christians, whether that be Orthodox, Catholic or some Protestants.

Yes for sure. He has a theology degree I believe.

 

[AlexB23]

Yes for sure. He has a theology degree I believe.

Nice, that is good.

 

[ArmyMatt]

@origen6 is a little bit of a red flag methinks

 

[AlexB23]

@origen6 is a little bit of a red flag methinks

Can you explain the meaning, or origin of origen6? I am not familiar with many theologians.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Can you explain the meaning, or origin of origen6? I am not familiar with many theologians.

my guess is Origen, who is a heretic.

 

[Wildflower3]

@origen6 is a little bit of a red flag methinks

I'm asking my friend about that. I never even noticed that.

 

[AlexB23]

my guess is Origen, who is a heretic.

Interesting. At least @Wildflower3 is gonna ask his/her friend.

 

[ArmyMatt]

I'm asking my friend about that. I never even noticed that.

it doesn’t mean it’s a bad blog or anything, just that in our modern times there seems to be this desire to rehabilitate Origen.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Interesting. At least @Wildflower3 is gonna ask his/her friend.

yep

 

[Wildflower3]

it doesn’t mean it’s a bad blog or anything, just that in our modern times there seems to be this desire to rehabilitate Origen.

I've heard that too. Why do people want that?

 

[ArmyMatt]

I've heard that too. Why do people want that?

because modern academics trust their own fallen intellect than the Church.

 

[AlexB23]

yep

Yeah.

 

[Wildflower3]

Interesting. At least @Wildflower3 is gonna ask his/her friend.

I'm a her. Are you a he or a her?

 

[Wildflower3]

Ok, so my blogging friend says he is sympathetic with those who are pro-Origen but he doesn't pray to him, or wish to battle the EO church about him, but he would like to see a council consider the reevaluation of Origen's foundational teachings (but not life before conception, or universal salvation which my friend rejects).

He didn't mean to link @origen6 with the blog or his writings, it was just a handle he happened to choose at the time, he wasn't trying to make a "statement" or anything.

 

[ArmyMatt]

but his teachings have been evaluated. the good has been kept and the bad rejected.

not sure what more we can do.

 

[Wildflower3]

but his teachings have been evaluated. the good has been kept and the bad rejected.

not sure what more we can do.

When you say the good has been kept, how so? Does EO accept and teach what's good/true even if it came from a heretical source?

 

[ArmyMatt]

When you say the good has been kept, how so?

his works that are not heretical (like his Philokalia which was compiled by the Cappadocians).

Does EO accept and teach what's good/true even if it came from a heretical source?

yes, because if it’s good and true it’s actually from God, even if we first heard it from a heretic.

 

[Lukaris]

I tend to view Origen as a tragic figure in that he was noble and had the courage of a martyr ( he was tortured by pagans). His spiritual teachings seem most peculiar though. For ex:


Origen taught that, before the creation of the material universe, God had created the souls of all the intelligent beings. These souls, at first fully devoted to God, fell away from him and were given physical bodies

Origen - Wikipedia

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Compare 1 Corinthians 15:42-58.

Bible Gateway passage: 1 Corinthians 15:42-58 - King James Version

So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a...

www.biblegateway.com

Later note, Origen also saw his father ( St. Leonides) executed by pagans.

Leonides of Alexandria - Wikipedia

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