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I am not here to champion science or promote my views, and that would certainly be off-topic for this forum.Why put in good work and effort on something that's not going to bear any fruit?
You guys certainly haven't done anything to promote your point of view...
Maybe, but two different things.The concepts are not incompatible.
But none in Judaism or Christianity.I made no allusions to that era. However, Wikipedia does have a section on the history of beliefs in a flat Earth from the Ancient Near East, Ancient Mediterranean, Ancient India, Norse and Germanic peoples, and Ancient China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth#Historical_development
But none from Christianity or Judaism.While it is tempting to cite some celebrities that were recently in the news railing against the flat-Earth deniers, I could look to the ancient writers that believed in an immovable - and flat - Earth.
Because your comment was to disparage ancient Christians as people believing in a flat Earth.I still would like to know, why does it matter from where it comes?
Actually not. When you look at how the stars move, you realize you're not on a flat disk.Not at all. The concept of a flat Earth is justified by observational data and everyday experience.
Riiiight.I am just pointing out that beliefs can be rational and justified, but that does not necessarily make them true.
No. We know where thunder, lightning, storms, oak trees, and strength come from. It ain't Thor.With that established, do you then accept as real the existence of Thor, as described in Norse mythology, a hammer-wielding god associated with thunder, lightning, storms, oak trees, strength, the protection of mankind?
You may conclude whatever you wish. That doesn't mean you're right.All I know is that you failed to deliver. What am I to conclude from that?
But not mutually exclusive.Maybe, but two different things.
Are the text references embedded in the diagram unfamiliar to you?But none in Judaism or Christianity.
But none from Christianity or Judaism.
Not at all. Their beliefs were rational and justified for the time in which they lived. It just did not make them true.Because your comment was to disparage ancient Christians as people believing in a flat Earth.
Explain.Actually not. When you look at how the stars move, you realize you're not on a flat disk.
Do you disagree? Do you not think there are religionists out there with beliefs different than yours that also consider their beliefs to be rational and justified? You can't all be right.Riiiight.
Actually, no, it can't Our God is the first cause of everything. Lightning, thunder, etc. Trace it all back, you'll find a reason for everything. When you get to a point of I don't know, you've figured it out-God.Interesting. Can this argument be used against other god claims? Yours, for example?
Yeah, they sorta are.But not mutually exclusive.
Nope. But the Bible is not a book of science. That's what gets you tripped up all the time.Are the text references embedded in the diagram unfamiliar to you?
How do you know what they believed about the heavens?Not at all. Their beliefs were rational and justified for the time in which they lived. It just did not make them true.
I think you pasted a picture of startrails in a circular motion...man on earth saw this and knew that, at least, things were going around and around. Phoenician sailors knew the earth wasn't flat.Explain.
They may, but I don't believe they can prove it. Christianity and God are provable.Do you disagree? Do you not think there are religionists out there with beliefs different than yours that also consider their beliefs to be rational and justified? You can't all be right.
So yours is a god-of-the-gaps.Actually, no, it can't Our God is the first cause of everything. Lightning, thunder, etc. Trace it all back, you'll find a reason for everything. When you get to a point of I don't know, you've figured it out-God.
Why do we aspire to further the wellbeing of others?
To put it concisely, wellbeing. We aspire to furthering the wellbeing of ourselves and others. That's what it means to do good.
How so?Yeah, they sorta are.
So you do recognize them.Nope. But the Bible is not a book of science.
I never claimed it to be a book of science.That's what gets you tripped up all the time.
It can be inferred from how they described the world around them in their writings.How do you know what they believed about the heavens?
And how would it look if things were not going around and around, and it was actually the Earth that was rotating?I think you pasted a picture of startrails in a circular motion...man on earth saw this and knew that, at least, things were going around and around.
So?Phoenician sailors knew the earth wasn't flat.
Yet you fail to deliver on that claim.They may, but I don't believe they can prove it. Christianity and God are provable.
Then relate it to the topic. Remember, we are discussing this supposedly rock-solid case you claim to have. At what point do you intend on presenting this case?This is directly related to the topic. Either answer the question, or admit you're not really interested.
Argument from ignorance.Actually, no, it can't Our God is the first cause of everything. Lightning, thunder, etc. Trace it all back, you'll find a reason for everything. When you get to a point of I don't know, you've figured it out-God.
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