Origin of Christianity and Judaism

[StonedProphet]

In ORIGIN OF CHRISTIANITY and JUDAISM, Manfred Davidmann proves what Jesus really taught: The social laws of the Torah have to be followed. These social laws guarantee equality, social justice and security, and a good life for all members of the community. These laws protect people from exploitation, oppression and enslavement through need. Early Christians, being mostly Jews, followed these laws.

Manfred Davidmann then proves how these essential social laws of the Torah were bypassed and ceased to be observed, in Judaism and in Christianity at the same time.

He describes and proves how Paul changed what Jesus had taught, how Paul's ideology serves the establishment instead of the people, and how this became Christianity's official doctrine. On the other hand Manfred Davidmann shows that the Talmud (especially the Mishnah) tells how Hillel changed Judaism in the same way, to what it is today.

The Dead Sea Scrolls, within the context of the findings reported here, become much more meaningful. In turn, the knowledge gained from them is part of the pattern of events recorded here for the first time.
What you find here is scientific analysis of facts established by the methods of biblical archaeology.

Outstanding are the sections on Paul and the Gospels: Manfred Davidmann shows that Paul's ideology was first opposed and that successive gospel writers then changed the record in Paul's favour, and how they did it.

ORIGIN OF CHRISTIANITY and JUDAISM
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THE TESTIMONY OF OTHERS CONCERNING THE PAUL OF THE NEW TESTAMENT

Historical Statements About The Apostle Paul...How Can They Say Such Things About Paul...What Do They Know That We Don't?
THE ISSUES INVOLVED IN THE PAULINE PROBLEM

• Introduction To Paul And The Multiple Problems Surrounding The New Testament
• Paul's Failure To Teach Us About Jesus
• The Gospel Message Of Jesus And Paul...Do They Agree?
  • The Gospel Message of Jesus...Who Will You Believe For Eternal Life...Jesus Or Paul?
  • The Gospel Message of Paul...Who Will You Believe For Eternal Life...Paul or Jesus?
• Why The Christian Should Bother Himself With The Jesus-Paul Problem And The Importance Of The Issue
• The Nature Of The Christian Faith: Historical Or Mythical?
• Does Paul's De-Emphasis Upon The Human Jesus Affect The Writers Of The Other Gospels?
• Solving The Jesus-Paul Problem...Can It Be Done?

THE PICTURE OF PAUL IN THE NEW TESTAMENT: HAVE WE BEEN TAUGHT THE TRUTH?

• The Picture Of Paul In The New Testament...Have We Been Taught The Truth?
• The Problem Of Paul In The New Testament...But You Never Knew That There Was A Problem...Did You?
• Can Knowledge Of The Pharisees, Gamaliel, Stephen, And Paul's Pre-Christian Life Help Us Find The Truth?
• The Purposeful Misrepresentation Of The Pharisees In The New Testament To Cloud The Pauline Problem
• Paul As A Pharisee?...Too Many Inconsistencies To Be A Pharisee
• The Re-Editing Of The New Testament To Cover Up The Pauline Problem
• The Book Of Acts And The Account Of Stephen...Trying Again To Cover Up The Truth About Paul
• The Artificial Creation Of Judaism's Rejection Of Jesus And Jesus' Rejection Of Biblical Judaism
• Paul's Relationship With The High Priest Proves Paul Was A Sadducee And Not A Pharisee
• The Non-Jewish Ideas Of Paul---A Pharisee of Pharisees...How Can This Be?
• Understanding The Damascus Road Experience Of Paul And His Spiritual Dilemma
• The Aftermath Of Paul's Damascus Road Experience...A New Religion
• The Necessary Role Of The Eucharist...In Paul's New Religion
• Does The Account Of The Jerusalem Church In The Book Of Acts Discount Paul's "Gospel" And Theology?
• Paul And His Master Plan For Reaching The Gentiles And Gaining Recognition Which The Jerusalem Church Never Gave Him
• Controvery At The Jerusalem Council? Law Or Grace? Or Both?
• The Tubigen School...Noticing The James/Peter...vs...The Pauline Split
  • Paul's Split With The Jerusalem Church And The New Testament's Attempt To Cover It Up...###1
  • Paul's Split With The Jerusalem Church And The New Testament's Attempt To Cover It Up...###2
  • Infighting Between Paul And James And Peter
• The Beginning Of Paul's Woes...The Challenge From The Messianic Christian Jews & Paul's Subsequent Trials
• The Ebionites And Their Testimony Concerning The Truth About Paul
• The Ebionites And What They Should Mean To The Christian
• Paul's Gospel: A Synthesis Of Gnosticism, Mystery Religions, And Judaism
• Paul's Anti-Law Bias...Revealed In Detail
• Paul's Denigration Of The Jews
• The Inconsistency In Paul's Writings Toward The Jews: Tolerance To Bigotry, From Love To Hate
• The Book Of Acts And Paul's Activities
• Paul...He Was Opposed By The Nazarenes And Yeshua's Church...This Should Trouble You!

THE NEW TESTAMENT'S DEPICTION OF PAUL...THE TRUTH ROME HOPED YOU'D NEVER LEARN

• Paul's Conversion In The New Testament...Is It Trustworthy...Or Should We Be Suspicious?
• How To Make Sure You Are Not Misled When You Read The Pauline Epistles
• Have We Followed The Wrong Gospel? The Hidden Battle Between James And Paul
• Hidden Conflict In The New Testament
• The Problem Of Paul In New Testament Studies
• Did Paul Betray Yeshua And His Message?
• When Paul's Teachings Conflict With Jesus...Who Are We To Believe?
• Paul-Odd Man Out At The Jerusalem Council
• Seeing Paul For What He Really Was...An Adversary To The Jerusalem Church
• The Clementine Homilies And The Struggle To Preserve Jesus' Real Message
• The Clementine Homilies And Their Importance For Christians
• The Law According To Paul...How Can We Believe Him?
• Danger Of Accepting Paul's View Of The Law
• Does Paul Have Double Vision When It Comes To The Law?
• Did Paul Continue To Bring Blood Sacrifices After The Cross Of Jesus?
• In Spite Of Paul's Favorite Portrayal In The New Testament...Was He Still An Enemy Of The Faith Of Jesus?
• The Letter To The Hebrews: An Attempt To Prevent The Gentile Exodus From Pauline Christianity To Mosaic Faith
• Paul And The Nazarenes...Why Do Their Messages Conflict When They Both Followed Yeshua?
• Paul And The Creation Of A New Religion For The Gentiles

 

[StonedProphet]

INVESTIGATING THE ORIGIN AND SYNTHESIS OF PAUL'S UNIQUE DOCTRINE OF SALVATION IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

Investigating The Origin And Synthesis [Gnosticism, Pagan Mystery Religions, Judaism] Of Paul's Unique Doctrine Of Salvation In The New Testament...Introduction

• Article no 1...Investigating The Origin And Synthesis Of Paul's Unique Doctrine Of Salvation In The New Testament
• Article no 2...Investigating The Origin And Synthesis Of Paul's Unique Doctrine Of Salvation In The New Testament
• Article no 3...Investigating The Origin And Synthesis Of Paul's Unique Doctrine Of Salvation In The New Testament
• Article no 4...Investigating The Origin And Synthesis Of Paul's Unique Doctrine Of Salvation In The New Testament
• Article no 5...Investigating The Origin And Synthesis Of Paul's Unique Doctrine Of Salvation In The New Testament
• Article no 6...Investigating The Origin And Synthesis Of Paul's Unique Doctrine Of Salvation In The New Testament
• Article no 7...Investigating The Origin And Synthesis Of Paul's Unique Doctrine Of Salvation In The New Testament
• Article no 8...Investigating The Origin And Synthesis Of Paul's Unique Doctrine Of Salvation In The New Testament

PAUL'S BLATANT AND PURPOSEFUL MISUSE OF THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES IN HIS WRITINGS

Eight Rules For Correct Interpretation Of Our Bibles
PaRDeS....The 4 Levels Of Jewish Understanding Of The Scriptures

• What Is This Law That Paul Rejected?
• Mysteries Surrounding Paul's Gospel And His View Of The Law
• The Relationship Between The Torah And Salvation As Taught In The Jewish Scriptures
• Paul And The Judaizers: Paul's Attempts To Thwart The Teachings Of The Jerusalem Church
• Looking At How Paul Misused The Jewish Old Testament In His Writings
• Does Paul Change The Faith Of Jesus Into A Faith About Jesus? You Will Have To Decide For Yourself
• The Law According To Paul...Can We Believe Him?
• Paul's Misrepresentation Of The Jews As God's Chosen People
• Paul's Inconsistent Teachings On Circumcision
• Paul's Conflicting Ideas On The Law...What Gives?
• Paul's Views On The Law As Contrasted With Moses' And The Prophets'
• Faith And Works...Does Paul Misrepresent It In The New Testament?
• Paul Would Have Us Believe Grace Is "Mysteriously" Somehow Exclusive Of Good Works...Is It?
• Grace As God's Unmerited Favor...Or Is It Merited After All....And Again Have We Been Misled By Paul?
• The Anti-Judaism Of Paul...Strange For A Pharisee Of Pharisees...Don't You Think?
• Paul Misquotes The Prophets And Misinterprets The Cornerstone...You Have Got To Be Kidding?
• Does God Want You To Obey His Torah Or Paul For Salvation?
• Does Paul Have The Right To Say That Those Who Don't Accept His "Variant" Gospel Are No Longer The Israel Of God?
• Is God's Wisdom Available To All Or Only To Those Who Accept His "Variant" Gospel?
• How Could Paul Be So Wrong In Saying Hanging A Corpse On A Tree Is A Curse On The Dead Instead Of The Living?
• Does Paul Try To Make Us Believe That Abraham Alluded To Jesus When He Didn't?
• Faith Or Deeds? Did Paul Misrepresent Abraham And David In His Writings...And What Are We To Believe?
• Did Paul Misapply The Text Of Isaiah To Maliciously Accuse The Jews Of Blaspheming The Name Of God...When They Had Not?
• Does Paul Slant The Truth To Make It Look Like His Pauline Christianity Has Replaced The Religion Of Moses And Yeshua?
• Romans Chapters 9-11: The Crucial Chapters Of New Testament Anti-Semitism And Replacement Religion
• Does Paul Take Out Of Context The Psalms To Make His Point...Even If The Original Author Of The Psalms Intended No Such Meaning?
• Did The Writers Of Gal. 3:5-6 Take The Quote Of Abraham And Faith From Gen. 15:6 Completely Out Of Context?
• "In Thee Shall All The Nations Be Blessed"...What Does This Really Mean?
• Galatians 3:10 And The Purposeful Misquote Of Deut. 27:26
• Galatians 3:11...No Man Is Justified By Obedience To The Law In The Sight Of God...Or Is He?
• Habbakuk 2:4...The Just Shall Live By Faith And The Misuse Of The Text In Galatians 3:11
• Galatians 3:13...How Could Paul Be So Wrong In Teaching That The Hanging Of A Corpse On A Tree Is A Curse Upon The "Dead" Instead Of The "Living"?
• The Changing Of The Tenses Of "Seed" From The Plural To The Singular And The Misapplication Of Gen. 13:15 And Gen. 25:7 In Galatians 3:16
• Galatians 3:19 States That "The Law Was Ordained By Angels" Or Was It?
• Galatians 3:19 States That The Law Was Given Because Of Transgressions...Was It #1?
  • Galatians 3:19 States That The Law Was Given Because Of Transgressions...Was It #2?
• Isa. 54:1 & Sarah And Hagar...Paul's Attempt To Teach With Rabbinic Methods...Gone Completely Awry!
• "In Thee Shall All The Nations Be Blessed"...Does This Refer To Jesus As Paul Would Have Us Believe?
• Pauls Misuse Of Psalms 8:5-7 in Hebrews 2:6-8
• Paul Would Have You Believe That Gentiles Who Accept His Unique Gospel Are Now The "New Israel"...How Absurd Paul!
• Can Paul Misquote Habakkuk And Get Away With It? Well He Has!
• In Adam All Died...Or Did They?...And Paul's Misquote Of Deut. 30:14
• Did The New Testament Writers Deceptively Picture Biblical Judaism As A Religion Without Love?

Summary And Conclusion To Paul's Blatant And Purposeful Misuse Of The Hebrew Scriptures In His Writings
THE INCIDENT AT ANTIOCH...PAUL'S ATTEMPT TO COVER UP HIS VIOLATION OF THE ACTS 15 COUNCIL AND HOW HE WAS LEADING HIS CHURCHES INTO SIN AND IDOLATRY

• Paul's Rebuke Of Peter....Have We Misunderstood What Really Happened At The Antioch Incident #1?
• Paul's Rebuke Of Peter....Have We Misunderstood What Really Happened At The Antioch Incident #2?
• Paul's Rebuke Of Peter....Have We Misunderstood What Really Happened At The Antioch Incident #3?
• Paul's Rebuke Of Peter....Have We Misunderstood What Really Happened At The Antioch Incident #4?
• Paul's Rebuke Of Peter....Have We Misunderstood What Really Happened At The Antioch Incident #5?
• Paul's Rebuke Of Peter....Have We Misunderstood What Really Happened At The Antioch Incident #6?
• Paul's Rebuke Of Peter....Have We Misunderstood What Really Happened At The Antioch Incident #7?
• Paul's Rebuke Of Peter....Have We Misunderstood What Really Happened At The Antioch Incident #8?
• Paul's Rebuke Of Peter....Have We Misunderstood What Really Happened At The Antioch Incident #9?
• Paul's Rebuke Of Peter....Have We Misunderstood What Really Happened At The Antioch Incident #10?
• Paul's Rebuke Of Peter....Have We Misunderstood What Really Happened At The Antioch Incident #11?
• Paul's Rebuke Of Peter....Have We Misunderstood What Really Happened At The Antioch Incident #12?

CONTRASTNG THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS AGAINST THE TEACHINGS OF PAUL...WHY DOES PAUL DISAGREE WITH JESUS' MESSAGE AND GOSPEL?

• Contrasting The Gospel Message Of Paul Vs The Gospel Of Yeshua No.1
• Contrasting The Gospel Message Of Paul Vs The Gospel Of Yeshua No.2
• Contrasting The Gospel Message Of Paul Vs The Gospel Of Yeshua No.3
• Contrasting The Gospel Message Of Paul Vs The Gospel Of Yeshua No.4

As we conclude the study of apostolic theology, the words of Rabbi Solomon Schechter come to mind: "One thing is quite clear even to every student, and this is that a curious alternative is always haunting our exegesis of the Epistles. Either the theology of the Rabbis must be wrong, its conception of God debasing, its leading motives materialistic and coarse, its teachings lacking in enthusiasm and spirituality, or the Apostle to the Gentiles is quite unintelligible."

 

[StonedProphet]

FURTHER STUDIES INTO THE PAUL PROBLEM.....ISOLATED DOCTRINES OF PAUL UNDER THE MICROSCOPE OF THE TORAH

• Paul And His Heretical Views On Authority....Was He A Sexist?
• Paul And His Views Of Jewish Christians...What Would Jesus Think Of This?
• Infighting Between Paul And Peter And James
• Paul's Denigration Of The Jews In His Letters
• Who Is The Real Paul...A Man Of Tolerance Or Bigotry?

LOOKING AT PAUL'S INFLUENCE UPON THE LATER WRITERS OF THE GOSPELS AND THE BOOK OF ACTS

• The View Of The Jew In The Gospels And The Book Of Acts
• Who Were The Evangelists And Why Did They Write What They Did?
• Have We Believed In "Another Jesus" And Not Known It?
  • Jesus The Jew
  • The New Testament And It's Portrait Of A Non-Jewish Jesus

THE MOST MISUNDERSTOOD BOOK IN THE NEW TESTAMENT...THE BOOK OF GALATIANS

• Have We Completely Misunderstood Paul's Message In The Book Of Galatians No.1?
• Have We Completely Misunderstood Paul's Message In The Book Of Galatians No.2?
• Have We Completely Misunderstood Paul's Message In The Book Of Galatians No.3?
• Have We Completely Misunderstood Paul's Message In The Book Of Galatians No.4?

 

[Steve Petersen]

OK, SP. This is like the third thread you have started using identical posts.

What gives?

 

[lesliedellow]

Let me guess. He concentrated mostly on the Gospel of Matthew for what Jesus "originally" taught.

 

[Basil the Great]

Personally, I have long noticed an appprent contradiction between Jesus and Paul re: how one gets saved. Jesus emphasizes works and Paul emphasizes faith. Everyone here will say that there is no contradiction, but there is a definite difference in emphasis.

 

[Helenm12]

I don't see a contradiction between Paul and Jesus in terms of how we get saved. Jesus says we are saved by faith in Him... no man comes to the Father except through me. But I do think we can easily forget about the importance of producing fruit, which has to be a sign that the salvation was real.

 

[barry@lake]

On "producing fruit '' anybody can produce "good fruit " ,even those that never have heard of the "Good News " of Jesus .
"What good is faith without works ' Jas. 2 : 14-26

 

[ElijahW]

He describes and proves how Paul changed what Jesus had taught, how Paul's ideology serves the establishment instead of the people, and how this became Christianity's official doctrine. On the other hand Manfred Davidmann shows that the Talmud (especially the Mishnah) tells how Hillel changed Judaism in the same way, to what it is today.

Was there a link to the evidence (primary text), this is coming from?

 

[Lovely Lane]

thanks for the links Stoned Prophet

 

[LBP]

Personally, I have long noticed an appprent contradiction between Jesus and Paul re: how one gets saved. Jesus emphasizes works and Paul emphasizes faith. Everyone here will say that there is no contradiction, but there is a definite difference in emphasis.

Yes, IMO there absolutely is. The only way to avoid this contradiction, IMO, is to ignore the three Synoptic gospels and pretend that John is the only one when - when, in fact, John's Jesus is entirely different from the Jesus of the Synoptics, John's christology is entirely different from that of the Synoptics, and John's gospel is riddled with mysterious sayings that scholars are in pretty solid agreement Jesus never said. Although Paul's letters generally predate the gospels, you have to wonder how he arrived at his christology and whether Jesus himself would have been completely bewildered by it.

 

[Lovely Lane]

I don't know, but it is odd that Paul's letters were written in 50-60 and the gospels in 70-110, so I have read.

 

[Lovely Lane]

hey, my anti virus program tells me not to look at these links....whats going on

 

[Jpark]

Let me guess. He concentrated mostly on the Gospel of Matthew for what Jesus "originally" taught.

If that's the case, that's a bad place to begin for such an argument. Matthew's gospel was for a Jewish audience. Of course there's going to be things that may not appear to coincide with what Paul wrote.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Something to bear in mind:

The same writer who wrote the Acts, wherein St. Paul is the biggest player in the narratives is the same writer who wrote Luke.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[stelow]

Something to bear in mind:

The same writer who wrote the Acts, wherein St. Paul is the biggest player in the narratives is the same writer who wrote Luke.

-CryptoLutheran

Good point!

I would add this is just more anti-Paul drivel; and if we can't believe the New Testament parts written by Paul, then we could very well conclude none of the New Testament can be believed.

 

[Clearly]

The OP's guest author presumes that the Apostle Paul IS the same person as Simon Magnus in the Clementine Recognition literature. Is there anyone able to explain in detail just why the OP's "guest author" conclusively determines that Simon Magnus who debates Peter in the Clementine Recognitions is equated with the New Testament apostle PAUL?

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