Organic connection between atheism and communism

[radhead]

How come no one ever talks about this? I heard a British author make this comment on the radio a few days ago. I feel like, in the US, it's almost regarded as politically incorrect to make such a statement.

Not to say that I believe pure capitalism is a Christian ideal. I don't believe in that either. (But I have heard of many Christians who became more right wing after their conversions.)

I feel like, fifty years ago it was probably okay to say these kinds of things.

 

[Im_A]

How come no one ever talks about this? I heard a British author make this comment on the radio a few days ago. I feel like, in the US, it's almost regarded as politically incorrect to make such a statement.

Not to say that I believe pure capitalism is a Christian ideal. I don't believe in that either. (But I have heard of many Christians who became more right wing after their conversions.)

I feel like, fifty years ago it was probably okay to say these kinds of things.

All I can say is...if you want to make this claim than better be sure your precious Jew is safe from the greed of American capitalism because right now, you are far from even being close from being that.

The immediate answer to your question from me is this:
Because disbelief in gods has absolutely nothing to do with communism but of course it takes a complicated mind to come to that point.[sarcasm in case someone didn't catch it]

 

[scraparcs]

The connection is not self-evident. What evidence do you have to provide? Thanks.

 

[broken_one]

@Radhead: 50 years ago it was DEFINITELY okay to say that. That's why "under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance in the '50s, so that we would be less like "them Godless commies". (Of course you got Christian Nationalists saying it was always there, but they are W.R.O.N.G. )

It's really just a misquote of Marx's famous quote that "religion is the opiate of the masses". To a degree it is: we're told to behave, to submit to the government....pay unto Caesar, etc. But to another degree it is a product of Marx's time that we can still see traces of today. This thing is the Catholic Church and its superstition. Martin Luther pointed out the flaws of superstition and absolute authority and started a revolution. So too did Marx. Even today we still see traces of superstition in all denominations. But it is to a much lesser extent.

So to briefly summarize, your idea that atheism and communism are connected is true, but today it also can not be. "Communism" means lots of things nowadays to different people, and what Marx advocated against really isn't too firmly-rooted anymore. Atheism is also a completely different strand of anything that only is brought together with Communism because Marx said so. So yeah.

 

[Im_A]

The connection is not self-evident. What evidence do you have to provide? Thanks.

EXACTLY

Especially when atheism existed in early Indic religion but of course more coercion would be needed for a conservative Christian <staff edit> to get this historical point.

 

[SpiritualAntiseptic]

Communism is a replacement for Christian ideals.

 

[SpiritualAntiseptic]

<Staff edit>

Thank you for sharing your wisdom and charity.

 

[Im_A]

Thank you for sharing your wisdom and charity.

I offer no charity to the likes of you.

My wisdom will be hidden in sarcasm and insults to the likes of you.

Get used to it.

 

[SpiritualAntiseptic]

I offer no charity to the likes of you.

My wisdom will be hidden in sarcasm and insults to the likes of you.

Get used to it.

On this issue, you do not know what you are talking about it. It's rather unfortunate that you resorted to insults instead of wanting to discuss it. Hopefully someone will come along that has more manners.

 

[Im_A]

On this issue, you do not know what you are talking about it.

Of course the dissenting side would say that.

 

[Oddish]

How is capitalism in line with christianity?

 

[Im_A]

How is capitalism in line with christianity?

Ask Republicans...

 

[marlowe007]

How come no one ever talks about this? I heard a British author make this comment on the radio a few days ago. I feel like, in the US, it's almost regarded as politically incorrect to make such a statement.

Who is this British author you mention? I'm sure I would be familiar with him/her.

 

[SpiritualAntiseptic]

Of course the dissenting side would say that.

And someone that actually knows what he is talking about, rather than attempts to stop any ideas different than his own opinion. I wouldn't even say it was dissenting because so far there has been nothing presented from which to dissent.

For those interested, communion emerged from Christian societies at a time when an understanding of virtue and charity were lost. Christianity represented part of the problem and its ideals were placed in the hands of the state/party.

 

[SpiritualAntiseptic]

How is capitalism in line with christianity?

Although unrestricted capitalism has had failures and problems, capitalism provides private property and a sense of responsibility which are important for people to flourish. These provide something that allows for the proper function of families- parents taking care of children.

 

[Im_A]

Although unrestricted capitalism has had failures and problems, capitalism provides private property and a sense of responsibility which are important for people to flourish. These provide something that allows for the proper function of families- parents taking care of children.

So that's specific with Christianity???

Pathetic...non-Christian religion have taken care of their families LONG before Christianity so why not give the person asking the question more of a REAL answer. At least I directed her in the right direction cause I sure as hell don't have the answer.

 

[SpiritualAntiseptic]

<staff edit>

This has nothing to do with anything that I said.

<staff edit>

I haven't said anything about atheism. Maybe instead of jumping to respond by using the word 'moron' you ought to actually read the posts I made.

 

[Im_A]

This has nothing to do with anything that I said.

So the OP is foolish and idiotic just as any response of yours to back up the claim from the OP or anyone else's for that matter.

I haven't said anything about atheism. Maybe instead of jumping to respond by using the word 'moron' you ought to actually read the posts I made.[/quote]
Nothing you said resembles any fraction of insight in my opinion.
Remember what this thread is about
If others gain from it, good for them.

 

[SpiritualAntiseptic]

So that's specific with Christianity???

Where did I say it was specific with Christianity? I mentioned in which ways capitalism was important for Christians.

Pathetic...non-Christian religion have taken care of their families LONG before Christianity

I'm not sure why you are arguing against something I never said.

 

[SpiritualAntiseptic]

Nothing you said resembles any fraction of insight in my opinion.
Remember what this thread is about
If others gain from it, good for them.

I would recommend going back and reading what I wrote. You seemed pretty gunghu on responding to anything that seemed to disagree with you. I'm not sure why you feel the need to be militant on the issue.