Remember when the republicans were the "values party?"
Of course...
They just aren't American or Christian values. (details on request)
Feel free to elaborate. Do you think those three in particular are representative of the Republican Party?
How many political leaders can you name who did a decent job but were personally sleazebags on the level of Trump or the people in this picture?
Are you admitting Trump did a "decent job"?
O.K., unfair question, rephrase... How many political leaders can you name who did a decent job but were personally sleazebags approaching the level of Trump or the people in this picture?
Again...are you asking me about awful people who did great things?
Mahatma Ghandi did some pretty gross stuff like sleeping with children (literally sleeping....to prove he could resist the "temptation" of sex with a little girl). I would think that sort of display wouldn't be necessary but hey....maybe he was the Epstein of his time.
Martin Luther King Jr....notorious for his multiple affairs while married.
Abraham Lincoln....extremely racist, and supported the idea of shipping the freed slaves back to Africa.
General William Tecumseh Sherman....notorious for both orchestrating the destruction of the Confederate forces of Georgia and the plains Indians of the Great Plains territory.
I'm not sure what exactly you're getting at here....nor am I certain what sort of sleazy things Gaetz, Bobert, and MGT are being referred to here.
You are interestingly making my point for me to a certain degree though...I was speaking of political values as a party, not personal moral values of any individuals. It's interesting to see how you seem focused on morals as if there is some sort of high ground for the political left to stand on. Is that really how you see the political left? Morally righteous or something?
Don't know if they all agree on those things.
There doesn't seem to be even general agreement let alone total agreement....but if you think there's general agreement on something that I'm not thinking of, I'm definitely interested in reading what it is.
You have the right to say what you like.
Right.
You don't have the right to insist that others support you in that speech or to help you broadcast it.
Right.
You don't even have the right to insist that they can't call you out on it.
How about not being punished for it if it's not illegal?
Say what you like in a public forum. Note "public."
Right....and that's your position?
You don't approve of this whole notion that people should have to hire people of certain skin colors to fill certain percentages of jobs then?
Well, they don't seem to like those guys because they are racist,
Racist against different people but just like the modern left....obsessed about race and believe it's extremely important.
but I sometimes wonder if a lot of it is due to the fact that the groups you mention also support guys like Donald Trump.
Seems doubtful...after all, they don't actually wield any political power.
I have the advantage of having grown up in America, and at a time when Jim Crow was the law in many conservative states. It was the idea that races should be kept separate and whites were entitled to the best schools, jobs, and accommodations generally. You didn't have the same advantage I did, so I can see why you're confused.
Wonderful...so when you see Democrats promoting extra taxes on one race (white people) specifically for the benefit of another race (black people)...how is that fundamentally different than Jim Crow era racist laws?
CdeBaca said a business improvement districts, or BID, could be used to enact a race-based tax on white-owned businesses.
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You know....other than the skin color of the people targeted by such racist laws and the people who benefit from those racist laws.
Take your time....I'll wait.
And even then there were private and government grants to students, often available to those who were part of racial minorities.
Not talking about private loans and grants....I'm talking about government laws and policies only.
Yes. The "Trump University" scam wasn't even the most egregious. Not surprisingly, Trump appointed a Secretary of Education whose family was in the middle of that mess. DeVoss got a contract to do something about Detroit's schools. She made them worse. Read that again;
she managed to actually make Detroit public schools worse.
A sobering look at what Betsy DeVos did to education in Michigan
But she did make a lot of money on it.
That seems a rather harsh criticism of her work considering that she started in 2016....but hey, what do I know? Let's see how Detroit schools fared in 2018 after Devoss had some time to fix things....
October 30, 2019
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Seems like Detroit schools actually improved under the Trump administration. Go figure
This is the "student debt forgiveness" that has grifters so upset. They will lose billions they scammed from unsuspecting students.
I have no idea how you got "billions" from 1800 students....but perhaps your math days are behind you.
Regardless, it's my fault for not being more specific.
President Biden on Monday announced new plans to cancel student debt for millions of borrowers, his broadest student loan forgiveness attempt since the U.S. Supreme Court struck down his more sweeping plan over a year ago. Danielle Douglas-Gabriel, who covers the economics of higher education...
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President Biden on Monday announced new plans to cancel student debt for millions of borrowers, his broadest student loan forgiveness attempt since the U.S. Supreme Court struck down his more sweeping plan over a year ago.
You see...the "president" is trying to buy the votes of young college students and grads by offering to shift their debt to others. Why?
Those would eliminate at least $20,000 in accrued interest for those who owe more than their original loan, offer more for those with lower incomes, cancel remaining debt for anyone who has spent 20 or 25 years, depending on the loan, repaying their loans, and void loans from college programs that were proven to be deceptive.
Deceptive college programs appears to be the closest thing to an explanation from this administration as to why students deserve a bailout of their loans.
Forget whatever small potatoes thing Betsy Devos did while improving outcomes for Detroit public schools....I'm talking about the bonkers 500 billion proposed student debt forgiveness that this administration is reluctant to explain.
Fortunately...all one needs is at least half a functioning brain to figure out the problem. The cost of the degrees are far greater than their value....ergo, a scam. That's 25 million estimated students scammed by "who knows" how many universities for degrees that are essentially without any real value (certainly not enough value to pay off their cost).
Now....does the administration know the students are being scammed? Obviously, they wouldn't be proposing the shifting of debt from college students to everyone else if those degrees had real value.
Unfortunately, instead of doing what they did to Trump University and prosecuting these scam universities.....this "student loan forgiveness" is just subsidizing the scam with taxes. Essentially, Biden and Harris are trying to get a piece of the scam. They're subsidizing it with other people's money.
That's why I asked if the left is for or against scam universities. They prosecuted Trump sure....but they've done nothing to fix the scams run by hundreds and hundreds of universities across the nation.
Not interested in whatever small potatoes thing you're referring to here....I think you owe Devos some credit for improving local Detroit schools but that's not important....
I'm curious about the Democratic Party's position on scam universities? Why only go after Trump University and not the ones that robbed 25 million students blind.... nationwide?
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