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[open] What Does Forgiveness Mean?

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This is what I was talking about. Just because I forgive doesn't mean I will forget, but ultimately I will leave it in God's hands to judge and decide.

And Flan, I know you can circle talk sometimes, but when I think of revenge I think of deliberatly doing something to get back at someone. Whether that is by forgiving them or some other action, I'm still not trying to do something to get back at someone. But I get your point.
 
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FLANDIDLYANDERS

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Tru dat.

For me, revenge is about being resolved. Which is also essential to forgiveness.

Circle talk or revoltuion?

It's a lovely pink sunset ripped across electric blue. I hope the same sunset comes your way in 4 hours, Ms Trying and Hairy-Tickler.
 
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If we don't forget how do wwe move on? I don't mean forget in the sense as in never remember but forget in the sense of not invoking negative feelings?


I think we are meant to learn lessons from our experiences and we should remember the lesson. We should also not allow people to hurt us repeatedly. You do have a choice to forgive and walk away.
 
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If we don't forget how do wwe move on? I don't mean forget in the sense as in never remember but forget in the sense of not invoking negative feelings?

sometimes i think moving on has nothing to do with forgiveness per say.

it just means, to me at least that we stop letting whatever wrong done to us negatively affect our lives.

sometimes i wonder if that is the first step in forgiveness because normally forgiveness is so hard because of the wrong that was done to us so if we stop letting it ruin our lives, forgiveness comes much quicker.
 
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Perhaps forgiveness is nothing more than our own awareness of being forgiven for our own atrocities.

Didnt Jeebus talk about those who are loved much, love more, forgiven much, forgive more?
Does that equate wearing your heart on your sleeve?

*Joking*

Yes - for me it's usually easy to forgive. Unless of course some one hurts my child(ren) - But I think that is normal in a human sort of way.

But sometimes even though you feel you have forgiven, the hurt seems to still come and go. Shouldn't the forgiveness cover that?
 
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[gratis]Does forgiveness ever happen instantly?

Or is it more often than not a process that along the way brings healing?

I think it can be both.

I love the fact that forgiveness is always extended to me when I mess up. God doesn't apply no clauses or procrastinate about my failure or mess, He just forgives (when I confess) my sin.

I like to look at it the way Jesus did when He spoke about children. I have a 10 yr old daughter and whenever I have spoken to her in a harsh way becos she did something wrong, I can immediately tell her I love her and I'm sorry for being upset with her and she will instantly forgive me. She won't dwell on it like us so-called mature adults do or worst still get into a sulk or mood about it. It's such a beautiful personality trait that most children possess.

I know if someone does me wrong I am obliged to forgive them becos God forgives me. How can I therefore refuse to offer forgiveness to someone and then expect to recieve that same level of forgiveness from God
 
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You make good points.
It truly is beautiful how children forgive us as parents and also their peers.

What goes wrong with us then as we age? Could it be our hearts harden?

I believe that if I or anyone else is finding it 'hard' to forgive then praying for the situation and also the person we are forgiving helps immensely!

There will always be instances like this, because we can strive all we want to forgive like God does - but we aren't God so it will be a struggle sometimes.
 
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[gratis]You make good points.
It truly is beautiful how children forgive us as parents and also their peers.

Amen..... especially their peers becos one minute they can have a falling out and then before you know it their back to being best friends again

What goes wrong with us then as we age? Could it be our hearts harden?

Yeah I think they do. Perhaps the passage of time just causes our ways to become more hardened. I really don't know....

I believe that if I or anyone else is finding it 'hard' to forgive then praying for the situation and also the person we are forgiving helps immensely!



There will always be instances like this, because we can strive all we want to forgive like God does - but we aren't God so it will be a struggle sometimes.

That's very true, no-one says it would be easy
 
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But sometimes even though you feel you have forgiven, the hurt seems to still come and go. Shouldn't the forgiveness cover that?

I have only a pithy comment to make here;

We all grieve differently, and sometimes grief is forgving and forgetting.
 
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I have only a pithy comment to make here;

We all grieve differently, and sometimes grief is forgving and forgetting.
You are very right. We are all very different, have different ways of dealing with what life throws us. What works for one of us, likely won't work for anyone else...and vice versa. Which of course opens another can of worms
 
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Nobody said it was easy..Now i will have Coldplay in my head all day.

Sometimes this forgivenesss thing just snowballs and the can of worms is one of those trick ones that jumps out at you when you take off the lid. No matter how ready you are for the stupid thing, ya still react! and not how you had planned to.
 
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