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[open] Find your Hebrew birthday and Parsha

Sephania

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Henaynei said:
not to put too fine a point on the thing.... but if your bar mitzvah fell on a year that was or was not a leap year, the parasha for your bar mitzvah may or may not be a double and your actual birth date parasha may or may not be a single ;)

OK, I see what you are saying, I checked it out mathematically with two sources and from what I can ascertain ( on a sleepy Shabbat afternoon) :) they are giving the parsha for your actual Hebrew birthday, disregarding leap years.

For example someone born June 5 1960 which is not a leap year but their 13th birthday would be a leap year the 14th year of the 19 year cycle to be exact. their Hebrew birthday would be Silvan 10 5720, and that is the date given for the BM, 10 Silvan 5733 ( 1973) June 10th, 1973.

Using the Chabad convertor for this info

http://www.chabad.org/calendar/1000year.asp?AID=6225
 
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there are 54 weekly portions - however the Jewish year varies in length - it runs a cycle of 19 years in which various years have more weeks (7 times in those 19 years - 3rd, 6th, 8th, 11th, 14th, 17th and 19th years of this cycle are leap years) - the "leap" year is those in which you will find 2 Adars -

you may have been born in a "normal" year (when each parasha has it's own week) or in a year when there were fewer weeks and where several of the parashot get doubled up!! AND what id you were born in AdarII but your bar mitzvah falls in a year where there is no AdarII? ;)
 
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MONTH .........COMMON YEAR ............LEAP YEAR
1 Tishri ..........30 30 30 ....................30 30 30
2 Heshvan .....29 29 30 ....................29 29 30 (variable)
3 Kislev .........29 30 30 ....................29 30 30 (variable)
4 Tevet .........29 29 29 .....................29 29 29
5 Shevat .......30 30 30 .....................30 30 30
6 Adar I ........29 29 29 ......................30 30 30 (variable)
7 Adar II ... ....-- -- -- .........................29 29 29 (optional)
8 Nisan .........30 30 30 ......................30 30 30
9 Iyyar .........29 29 29 ......................29 29 29
10 Sivan .......30 30 30 ......................30 30 30
11 Tammuz ...29 29 29 ......................29 29 29
12 Av ...........30 30 30 ......................30 30 30
13 Elul .........29 29 29 ......................29 29 29
....................--- --- --- .......................--- --- ---
..................353 354 355 .................383 384 385

As you can see - years vary from 353 to 385 in the number of days

other concers that affect this all include:
  1. Tishri 1 must never be Sunday, Wednesday or Friday. (This is largely to prevent certain holidays from occurring on the day before or after the Sabbath.)
  2. If the molad (new moon) occurs on or after noon, Tishri 1 must be delayed.
  3. If it is a common (not leap) year and the molad occurs on Tuesday at or after 3:11:20 A.M., Tishri 1 must be delayed.
  4. If it is the year following a leap year and the molad occurs on Monday at or after 9:32:43 and 1/3 sec, Tishri 1 must be delayed.
So if you were born on Heshvan (or Kislev or Adar I) 30th one year, but you Bar Mitzvah falls in a year in which Heshvan (or Kislev or Adar I) has only 29 days - this may well affect what your Parasha is :)
 
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Zayit said:
Different how?
go to the chabad site and calculate your date - once for Bar and once for Bat - you will see a difference :) for some dates...

For instance - 10/16/77 = Cheshvan 4, 5738

The BAR Mitzvah for that date is:
Torah Portion: Parshat Lech-Lecha


The BAT Mitzvah for that date is:
Torah Portion: Parshat Noach

fact is that boys are Bar Mitzvah'd at 13 and girls at 12 - and this highlights how the parasha of your birth date might not be the one of your Bar Mitzvah - which is the date the first link you posted was computing, it all has to do with when various leap years fell and how many days in your month *that* year - HOWEVER ;)

the chabad link calculates your birth date and from their calendar you CAN find your birth parasha - go to their Date Converter and convert your birth date to Hebrew calendar - then click on the Hebrew date that is displayed and it will take you to a screen with the monthly calendar for that month and year on the right of the screen - just click on the calendar on the Saturday/Shabbat that *follows* your Hebrew Birth date and you have it!!

In my case it is all the same - birth/Bar/Bat - but as I've shown that *may* not be the case for everyone here :)

Shabbat Shalom :wave:
 
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Red are Leap years
........1998..............5758........1
........1999..............5759........2
........2000..............5760........3
........2001..............5761........4
........2002.................62.........5
.............3.................63.........6
.............4.................64.........7
.............5.................65.........8
.............6.................66.........9
.............7.................67.......10
.............8.................68.......11
.............9.................69.......12
........2010..............5770........13
............11................71........14
............12................72........15
............13................73........16
............14................74........17
............15................75........18
.........2016............5776........19
 
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Henaynei said:
go to the chabad site and calculate your date - once for Bar and once for Bat - you will see a difference :) for some dates...

For instance - 10/16/77 = Cheshvan 4, 5738

The BAR Mitzvah for that date is:
Torah Portion: Parshat Lech-Lecha


The BAT Mitzvah for that date is:
Torah Portion: Parshat Noach

fact is that boys are Bar Mitzvah'd at 13 and girls at 12 - and this highlights how the parasha of your birth date might not be the one of your Bar Mitzvah - which is the date the first link you posted was computing, it all has to do with when various leap years fell and how many days in your month *that* year - HOWEVER ;)

the chabad link calculates your birth date and from their calendar you CAN find your birth parasha - go to their Date Converter and convert your birth date to Hebrew calendar - then click on the Hebrew date that is displayed and it will take you to a screen with the monthly calendar for that month and year on the right of the screen - just click on the calendar on the Saturday/Shabbat that *follows* your Hebrew Birth date and you have it!!

In my case it is all the same - birth/Bar/Bat - but as I've shown that *may* not be the case for everyone here

Shabbat Shalom :wave:
OK, I understand now, the Chabad site. From what I have learned of the bat Mitzvah, it was originally not an Orthodox ceremony( and is less than 100 years old in this country) but they adopted it and they are the ones using the age of 12, whereas the Conservative, Reform, and basically those not Orthodox, follow the same age as the boys, 13.

But dispite all this headache of leap years, and age differences,;) I was happy to know what the reading was on the day I was born. Which was a Shabbat BTW, anyone else born on Shabbat?:)
 
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by Mother Goose
Monday's child is fair of face,
Tuesday's child is full of grace,
Wednesday's child is full of woe,
Thursday's child has far to go.
Friday's child is loving and giving,
Saturday's child works hard for a living,
But the child born on the Sabbath Day,
Is fair and wise and good and gay.

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Sunday's child is fair of face,
Monday's child is full of grace,
Tuesday's child is full of woe,
Wednesday's child has far to go.
Thursday's child is loving and giving,
Friday's child works hard for a living,
But the child born on the Sabbath Day,
Is fair and wise and good and gay.
 
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Zayit said:
good maybe, but :eek:
dear dear Zayit - at the time this poem was written the word gay meant one with a joyous spirit - the term has been fairly recently co-opted by those who don't mean that at all :)
 
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This was my info...
Bar/Bat Mitzvah Birthday : 18 Elul 5751(28 August 1991)Bar/Bat Mitzvah Sabbath : 21 Elul 5751(31 August 1991)
Torah PortionKi Tavo, Deuteronomy : 26:1-29:8
Haftarah PortionIsaiah 60:1 - 60:22

Is the Torah portion what was read that day? What is the Haftarah?
 
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