Open Carry and Robbery

[cow451]

Born and raised in the birthplace of the Panthers - Oakland CA.

And the Raiders fire another coach.

 

[stamperben]

And the Raiders fire another coach.

Yeah well, Al Davis is gone.

 

[Radicalmonk]

Vyulo, Your comparison totally lacks any logic. I DID NOT cite any individual alternate item: I clearly cited a group and added etc. meaning that the list goes on. There are probably thousands of alternate objects (b. bats, cars, axes, chainsaws, ice picks, screw drivers, and etc) which can be just as deadly if not more (ie; infectious diseases or lead or cyanide or etc. added to municipal drinking water or public place air movement appliances or a tractor-trailer crashed into a school bus or a plane a bldg, a train or tractor-trailer either loaded with bulk hazardous materials crashed intentionally.)

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Ugg...Pies Morgan for sure. Ted Nugent's house would be filled with too much gawdy junk.

LOL, I can imagine the Nuge has a house full of hunting trophies and camo clothing...and Piers just has a bunch of pictures of himself posing with a thoughtful, yet serious gaze.

Vs.

 

[Armoured]

LOL, I can imagine the Nuge has a house full of hunting trophies and camo clothing...and Piers just has a bunch of pictures of himself posing with a thoughtful, yet serious gaze.

Vs.

Not to mention Ted's personal hygiene issues

Gun Enthusiast Ted Nugent Wasn't Anxious To Bear Arms Against Those Pesky Vietcong | The Smoking Gun

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Not to mention Ted's personal hygiene issues

Gun Enthusiast Ted Nugent Wasn't Anxious To Bear Arms Against Those Pesky Vietcong | The Smoking Gun

I've read that story before, and many call Nuge a hypocrite for doing that...I look at it a little differently. Being adamantly pro-gun, but adamantly against fighting stupid, pointless wars isn't a conflict of interest in my mind...considering that's my position on the matter...don't get me wrong, if the country were ever under a true threat, I'd have no problem taking up arms to defend it, however, a situation like Vietnam?...I'd be right there next to Ted in the "poopy pants" line...and I'm a person who owns a dozen firearms and staunchly believes in the right to bear arms. I imagine you'd find several libertarian types who share my position on that. I'm all for bearing arms for defense of self, property, and country...however, the Vietcong wasn't a threat to any of those things in my mind. We went there looking to get into a fight in my opinion.

 

[Aldebaran]

A man practicing open carry of his handgun apparently impressed anothetr Second Amendment supporter.

The man then asked about the gun, pulled a gun from his own waistband and said “”I like your gun. Give it to me.”

He should have given him the gun one bullet at a time!

 

[TLK Valentine]

He should have given him the gun one bullet at a time!

You mean he should've committed suicide?

 

[Aldebaran]

You mean he should've committed suicide?

No. While handing over his gun, he could have accidently pulled the trigger. There's no telling what the robber was going to do with that gun once he got it.

 

[TLK Valentine]

No. While handing over his gun, he could have accidently pulled the trigger. There's no telling what the robber was going to do with that gun once he got it.

And what do you think the robber would've done had his victim pointed the gun toward him while handing it over?

HINT: It wouldn't have been "accidental."

 

[Armoured]

I've read that story before, and many call Nuge a hypocrite for doing that...I look at it a little differently. Being adamantly pro-gun, but adamantly against fighting stupid, pointless wars isn't a conflict of interest in my mind...considering that's my position on the matter...don't get me wrong, if the country were ever under a true threat, I'd have no problem taking up arms to defend it, however, a situation like Vietnam?...I'd be right there next to Ted in the "poopy pants" line...and I'm a person who owns a dozen firearms and staunchly believes in the right to bear arms. I imagine you'd find several libertarian types who share my position on that. I'm all for bearing arms for defense of self, property, and country...however, the Vietcong wasn't a threat to any of those things in my mind. We went there looking to get into a fight in my opinion.

I make no comment about the rights or wrongs of the Viet Nam conflict. My point was entirely about the pleasantness of robbing Nugent's mansion. The admittedly flippant implication was that anything in it will be covered in faecal matter.

 

[cow451]

No. While handing over his gun, he could have accidently pulled the trigger. There's no telling what the robber was going to do with that gun once he got it.

The robber wasn't as stupid as the gun owner. He had the drop on him. Had the owner not cooperated, he would be risking loss of life over his precious handgun. This was a time where discretion was the better part of valour.

That's one of my concerns about open carry. The bad guys know which potential victims need to be targetd. The gun owner has lost the element of surprise. To me, concealed carry seems much safer and more effective.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The robber wasn't as stupid as the gun owner. He had the drop on him. Had the owner not cooperated, he would be risking loss of life over his precious handgun. This was a time where discretion was the better part of valour.

But... but... but... he was a good guy with a gun! Good guys with guns always triumph over bad guys with guns, don't they?

 

[cow451]

But... but... but... he was a good guy with a gun! Good guys with guns always triumph over bad guys with guns, don't they?

Even when they make a judgement error........

 

[bhsmte]

The robber wasn't as stupid as the gun owner. He had the drop on him. Had the owner not cooperated, he would be risking loss of life over his precious handgun. This was a time where discretion was the better part of valour.

That's one of my concerns about open carry. The bad guys know which potential victims need to be targetd. The gun owner has lost the element of surprise. To me, concealed carry seems much safer and more effective.

I never quite got the whole "open carry" thing.

It's like a wild west mentality; hey look, I have a gun!

 

[TLK Valentine]

I never quite got the whole "open carry" thing.

It's like a wild west mentality; hey look, I have a gun!

And it's always the big guns they want to openly carry -- the hand cannons and long rifles. Nobody ever wants to show off their little .22 or antique Derringer.

Paging Dr. Freud....

 

[OGM]

And it's always the big guns they want to openly carry -- the hand cannons and long rifles. Nobody ever wants to show off their little .22 or antique Derringer.

Paging Dr. Freud....

HaHaHa!

I am not sure I understand Open Carry either. If I owned a firearm I would want to keep it concealed.

 

[bhsmte]

Quick question.

In the states where you can open carry, do you have to open carry, or do you have option to conceal?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Quick question.

In the states where you can open carry, do you have to open carry, or do you have option to conceal?

It really depends on the state, here in Ohio where I live, you can carry openly without a permit, however, you need a permit to carry concealed.

Some states, you can only go concealed...others, you must obtain a permit, which then grants you the ability to carry it as you wish.

Before the recent law changes in Ohio, even with the permit, you weren't allowed to carry concealed in vehicles, it had to be in plain sight...then concealed once you left the vehicle.

...with our 50 states, there are probably 9 or 10 flavors of carry laws out there depending on where you're at.