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K9Guardian

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oh? Well, Miss Scientist, you've been stupefied by those over-erudite idiots. do not take on a pooh-pooh attitude just because something can't be formulated or observed.

We are used to thinking about time categorically. Night-day. Seconds-minutes-hours. seasons. But eliminate this tendency, and all we've got is a bunch of processes happening in relation. Suspended in a void, an infant will have no concept of time whatsoever; it will know only that is rowing bigger, its body changing. The human vocabulary is riddled with words aving to do with time. pastt, present, future. Planets have different day times, so in space, how does one denote time? By comparing it to a standard. No standard = no measure of relativity of events. An event is a bunch of prcesses happening in relation to each other. A process is anything dynamic. Time is the sum total of all events in the universe happening in relation.

In short, time is a result of man's limited perception.
 
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Oh, okay! X_x I get it now.
I got it the first time. :p

oh? Well, Miss Scientist, you've been stupefied by those over-erudite idiots. do not take on a pooh-pooh attitude just because something can't be formulated or observed.

We are used to thinking about time categorically. Night-day. Seconds-minutes-hours. seasons. But eliminate this tendency, and all we've got is a bunch of processes happening in relation. Suspended in a void, an infant will have no concept of time whatsoever; it will know only that is rowing bigger, its body changing. The human vocabulary is riddled with words aving to do with time. pastt, present, future. Planets have different day times, so in space, how does one denote time? By comparing it to a standard. No standard = no measure of relativity of events. An event is a bunch of prcesses happening in relation to each other. A process is anything dynamic. Time is the sum total of all events in the universe happening in relation.

In short, time is a result of man's limited perception.

Time is the length between the beginning and the end.

Beginning<---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->End

There is second nor season, day nor night, there is only a step closerto the end.

Beginning<xxxxx----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->End
 
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Time exists and yet Time does not exist. Everything has already been made, and yet is still n the making. What we see as time is but a perception; as we drive on the highway we see only the road ahead of us. Does this mean that there is no road already there beyond sight? Creation stands complete everywhere and through all time. if we could grasp this truth in its fullness, we would not worry, because the story of tomorrow has been written. What will be, will be.

Actually MD, God knows the beginning to the end, but it has not happened yet. The road you speak of in front of us goes on, yes, to God's eyes that are beyond ours, but we are only existent in the present second. Everything is not complete yet. Revelation speaks of the end times, which have not occured yet. God knows the end result, but there is no one else who does save by prophesy by John's (or any prophet's) part :)
 
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Actually MD, God knows the beginning to the end, but it has not happened yet. The road you speak of in front of us goes on, yes, to God's eyes that are beyond ours, but we are only existent in the present second. Everything is not complete yet. Revelation speaks of the end times, which have not occured yet. God knows the end result, but there is no one else who does save by prophesy by John's (or any prophet's) part :)
Only to a limited perspective. The future has to already exist in order for prophecy to be possible. Taken out of time, we would see the whole thing laid out like a huge quilt, already finished. the only reason we think the future does not exist yett is the same reason people before Columbus thought if you sailed too far, you'd fall off the world.
 
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