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How would you deal with the language/s issue ?
 
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How would you deal with the language/s issue ?

1 language everybody should speak. This language HAS to be taught in schools alongside the native language. For example, in my school, this is what I get taught (just the language ofc): 5 hours Latin, 4 hours Dutch, 4 hours French, 3 hours German, 3 hours english.

One language should be taught just as much as the native language.
 
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I can imagine the intrigue involved in choosing the common language ..
 
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I don't want to get rid of certain people etc, I would just like to be rid of that problem. No forcing or making someone do that, just POOF and it happens.
Coulda fooled me when you said this:

In my world, these people wouldn't exist.
I mean, you can't get from point A to point B without taking some sort of action. Humans can't do "POOF and it happens."

And if we'd have all people working together, perhaps there wouldn't be scarcity. If we'd have a great economy etc, we could produce enough resources.
No, that's not possible. Scarcity can be reduced, history has shown that, but not eliminated. There is only so much food, for so many people. There is only so much land. There are only so many workers. There are only so many hours in a day. This is the problem of scarcity, and it cannot be eliminated. It can be reduced though, and what has reduced it the most is capitalism.
 
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Good luck on your exam. When do you find out how you did?

I'm familiar with Esperanto. I don't think it failed because it was scientific. I think it failed because nobody spoke it to begin with, so there was no impetus to learn it.

Nevertheless, I see what you mean. It's sort of like Greek after the Macedonian conquest of the Mediterranean, or Latin during the Middle Ages? People can still have their own regional languages and cultures?


Well... saying religion has caused so much harm is like saying government has caused so much harm. On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, it's really more about corrupt people than it is about the principle of the thing. Take any group with enough people and somebody's going to become violent. Someone sees an opportunity for power and it ceases to be about the tenets of the group. People who ostensibly followed Gandhi acted violently on occasions while he was still alive and criticizing violence! People will act violently in the name of "peace" if they are so motivated.

Now, there's certainly something to say about group mentality (or herd mentality, if you prefer), but that won't disappear without religion. Nor is group mentality always used for evil. And religion has also done many great and good things -- not just mine, but many religions. I don't accept the "religion has caused so much harm" as an argument against religion. I _do_ accept it as an argument against causing harm.

The second reason seems better -- all religions are false and so people are chasing after something unreal.
 
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Ah, but I did feel lost before I knew Him, and actually I did miss the things that God is..I'm just glad I found what I was missing.
 
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No, it doesnt quite work that way..ther's a lot more to it than that, but it's too late at night for me to go into all that.
 
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Good luck on your exam. When do you find out how you did?

Exam starting in 25 mins from now. and I find out my score the 18th? or something like that. But really gtg now so bye!

EDIT. well we're about 2 and a half hours later now, and I believe it went quite well
 
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How about making one?

I quote this for your amusement:

 
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Yes it does...

You can't imagine living on without God, just because you've known him.

Evidently there is something being lost in translation. Being lost has absolutely nothing to do with Missing God Or living without Him.

Whether you know of God or not, His laws, principles and righteousness remains the same. Because God's Standards are not contingent on anyone's knowledge or acceptance of them, and because were are all found to be unworthy or unrighteousness without the blood sacrifice of Jesus, we are indeed eternally lost to Him.. Again this has little to nothing to do with how one "feels" one way or another.

It's like believing in Gravity. you can fully know and understand the laws of Gravity or you can be completely be unaware of it, and it still works the same despite your knowledge of it.. Or do you believe that the village you mention is without gravity?
 
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xD What a coincidence, this text was in my textbook english, which I had to study for my exam today.
 
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Ah, but I did feel lost before I knew Him, and actually I did miss the things that God is..I'm just glad I found what I was missing.

Did you miss 'God', or did you miss something to fill the void? If you would have gotten in touch with the great Mamamouchi from the tribesmen instead of the Christian God, I bet you would have taken that God for granted, and would be believing in it just as much as you are believing in your Christian God today.
 
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I mean, you can't get from point A to point B without taking some sort of action. Humans can't do "POOF and it happens."

Well yes, ofcourse we can't. But I'm not interested in making this world, I prefer just thinking of the final product


Even though there is only so much food, so much land and so many workers, there are only so many people. There isn't an infite amount of people on this planet, and if we had "1 world", we could make so much better use of this planet (f.e. regions where poverty and war is found these days, without these problems we could easily make better use out of these countries: by applying modern methods all over the world etc)

But you might be right, I do not know.
 
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What do you think, about [...]
NO boundaries, NO countries, and NO religion.

Sorry, but it won't happen. Nobody wants it. The religious majority will hold on to being religious. People and their governments in every country will continue demand control over the entry and activities of foreigners. Why shouldn't they? It's their country and they want security.
 
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Glad we agree

I'm not sure if you know, but we once tried coming up with a new language, called esperanto. It failed miserably as it was a scientific language. People had hard times learning it as it was very complicated, and ofcourse, no country / people would be willing to prefer that over its cultural heritage.


Now, for my suggestion on how this could be brought about...
As i've mentioned in lots of posts already, I find my idea to be inexecutable. We can't try forcing people because 1: I wouldn't want that. And 2: it wouldn't work. People hang on to their sense of nationalism and pride and their feelings about their own culture being special etc...

F.e: We can't just ask a person whether he wants to stop believing in God. Anybody who really believes in God won't be deconvinced about his existence, right? Atleast, not when someone just tells them to do so.

So: I don't want to bring this about. I'd just like the world to be like that
If we'd ever had a time travelling machine, we should go back in time and teach all people these things, before they'd have a sense of nationalism and religion etc...

But I fear that will never happen

Talk to you later,
Thomas.
 
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we should all speak Sumerian, first recorded language anyway

Yeah. We should all live in caves and wear loin-cloths too.

As much as I agree with a unified world, I doubt this will ever happen. One thing that has remained constant since the dawn of man, is stupid people, with stupid isolating beliefs. We are a broken species.
 
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