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Peter was BEHAVING inconstently, not teaching inconsistently. Learn the ins and outs of the doctrine before you provide commentary, it will save you grief when your strawman is destroyed.
Since Orthodoxy doesn't share a similar view regarding original sin as the Roman Church does, setting this viewpoint in concrete terms is difficult at best. Since I have been both Orthodox and Catholic, I can speak with perspective on both viewpoints, which makes my line of questioning and thinking germain to the topic. Are you going to discuss, or continue to be irascible?
Super. I will refrain from speaking for the Orthodox church. So, can you tell the rest of the participants in this thread what the Orthodox position on Mary as Ark of the New Covenant is?
Yes, it does teach that she died and was taken up in body to heaven so that she would remain uncorrupted.Lets cut to the chase.
Was the wood that the original ARK was made from Holy before it was fashioned into the ARK? Or was it consecrated and became Holy afterward?
Does your Church teach that Mary died? Check carefully.
Forgive me...
You didn't answer on the whole kecharitomene part......Lets cut to the chase.
Was the wood that the original ARK was made from Holy before it was fashioned into the ARK? Or was it consecrated and became Holy afterward?
Does your Church teach that Mary died? Check carefully.
Forgive me...
Peter was BEHAVING inconstently, not teaching inconsistently. Learn the ins and outs of the doctrine before you provide commentary, it will save you grief when your strawman is destroyed.
Not exactly. The Holy Spirit guarantees that the church, under the temporal leadership of the Pope, cannot formulate errant doctrine. By your standard, non of the Apostles were capable of sinning. Yet both Paul and John speak often of retaining a sin nature.LOL! So Peter's teaching was do as I say, not as I do?
Learn the ins & outs of common sense, & you won't look like like a fool. You're saying Peter didn't practice what he preached. You make the first Pope out to be a hypocrite.
So did Paul.
When Gabriel addressed Mary with "Kacharitomene Mariam" He used the present participle in the perfect tense to describe Mary's state of grace. It wasn't Gabriel's announcement that filled Mary with grace, He was acknowledging a condition that already existed. Gabriel was commenting that Mary was already full of grace, and always had been. In effect he said, "Mary, you are full of grace." Not, "Mary, you are NOW full of grace", or "Mary, you will be full of grace", but a proclaimation that she was full of grace in a continual and unending sense. So, I ask you, when DID Mary become "full of grace". And if she was full of grace, how could she be considered corruptable and sinful?
