• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Once you're saved, you don't matter anymore

peaceful-forest

Still Waiting
Nov 5, 2022
1,494
1,229
34
United States
✟105,339.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Single
After I was saved, I attended Baptist churches and non-denominational churches. It seems like at the two Baptist churches, whether it was from leadership or other church members, they had this attitude that once you were saved, you didn't matter anymore. What I mean is that the church has too much of a focus on saving lost people. So if a Christian needs something or wants something, it doesn't matter, because "there are more important things to focus on and there's people going to Hell".

Is this anyone else's experience? Are the pastors and/or leadership being taught something in seminary school/Christian colleges/Bible colleges that is encouraging this kind of behavior? Why is it okay to neglect other parts of the church because "people are going to Hell and need to hear the Gospel"?
 

rebornfree

Senior Veteran
Site Supporter
May 5, 2007
8,760
14,531
NW England
✟961,560.00
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Female
Faith
Charismatic
Marital Status
Divorced
I have slightly, in a previous church, but the leader was obsessed with activity. It was a loving church and rightly tried to reach the lost through many ministries. In doing so it occasionally missed the needs of the members.

I appreciate that those of us who are saved have had our greatest need met and the first priority must be the lost, but we should be valuing church members too. Apart from not wanting people to suffer unnecessarily we also lose our 'work force' if a Christian has difficulties which lessens their ability to evangelise or to serve the Lord in other ways. Also the way church members care for each other can be a good witness to those outside.
 
Upvote 0

Delvianna

Well-Known Member
Sep 10, 2025
443
318
39
Florida
✟10,894.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Yes because getting unsaved to saved means they get more members which means they get more money. I've seen this A LOT in churches. Pastors aren't pastoring people like they should. That's not to say that all pastors are like that, but I've seen it a lot. There's a focus on bringing people to church, preach on sunday, go home and the church doesn't exist for the next 6 days and that's... it, really.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: lismore
Upvote 0

lismore

Maranatha
Oct 28, 2004
21,027
4,668
Scotland
✟301,865.00
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Is this anyone else's experience? Are the pastors and/or leadership being taught something in seminary school/Christian colleges/Bible colleges that is encouraging this kind of behavior?
I have heard complaints from students that Campus Ministries are all over them, Christians wanting to be their friend, but then at a certain point ghosting them. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth. I did experience it to a certain extent myself, 'love bombing' it used to be called, but it's obviously shallow and they suddenly drop you. I think it might be certain Evangelism programmes from celebrity authors reducing evangelism to a mechanical process rather than a relationship. And of course when you're in the club then your place in equation is to bring new folks into the club, not to have any needs or individuality yourself. It gives the appearance of a Ponzi scheme. God Bless :)
 
Upvote 0

2PhiloVoid

Critically cutting wicked webs!
Site Supporter
Oct 28, 2006
25,235
11,870
Space Mountain!
✟1,403,591.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
After I was saved, I attended Baptist churches and non-denominational churches. It seems like at the two Baptist churches, whether it was from leadership or other church members, they had this attitude that once you were saved, you didn't matter anymore. What I mean is that the church has too much of a focus on saving lost people. So if a Christian needs something or wants something, it doesn't matter, because "there are more important things to focus on and there's people going to Hell".

Is this anyone else's experience? Are the pastors and/or leadership being taught something in seminary school/Christian colleges/Bible colleges that is encouraging this kind of behavior? Why is it okay to neglect other parts of the church because "people are going to Hell and need to hear the Gospel"?

What you describe about your experiences is a not uncommon occurrence, due in part to the fact that some seminaries and other theological schools fail to include a substantive amount of counseling skills and pastoring skills. Some 'pastors' get in the pulpit and are basically just one big box of Bible facts on two legs, only good for shooting out theological answers to the questions no one is really asking. Or, they only have Bible verses to toss at those with deep seated difficulties or other issues, and nothing else.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PloverWing
Upvote 0

Pepperdoodle

Active Member
Aug 13, 2025
340
207
Eastern US
✟10,650.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
After I was saved, I attended Baptist churches and non-denominational churches. It seems like at the two Baptist churches, whether it was from leadership or other church members, they had this attitude that once you were saved, you didn't matter anymore. What I mean is that the church has too much of a focus on saving lost people. So if a Christian needs something or wants something, it doesn't matter, because "there are more important things to focus on and there's people going to Hell".

Is this anyone else's experience? Are the pastors and/or leadership being taught something in seminary school/Christian colleges/Bible colleges that is encouraging this kind of behavior? Why is it okay to neglect other parts of the church because "people are going to Hell and need to hear the Gospel"?

Sorry you've experienced that.
I've never had that experience in the Churches we've attended.
We've moved through the years due to job situations being the reason, so have had to find a new Church in each place.
 
Upvote 0