My message was erased once because it took so long to write and was so detailed. I will address the issue in truth and reality. Reformationist, as I see you posted before, I do not appreciate your criticism and mockery. I believe the purpose here is to reply in such a way that it helps the person with the question... Not everyone elses messages. As for going through my suggestions and truths and saying they are wronge I believe a more effective approach would be to answer the question at hand with biblical truth and not sarcasm to others remarks.
First of all. We cannot die of the things of this world and just get up again. What im saying is we cannot die with Christ or be hung on the cross with Him and then decide to get down or leave Him there.
This message was very long and detailed before but im not sure I could remember all the things before.
Our covenant of salvation with God is a conditional one. It says, "Everything I have is your." This comes from God and us as well.
Luke 9:62- But Jesus told him," Anyone who puts a hand to the plow and then looks back is not fit for the kingdom of God."
Every confession in the old testament has a counter-part in the new.
Genesis 19:26- But Lot's wife looked back as she was following along behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.
As I said before Christ did not stop short and drop the cross and say im through and Paul says to run the race.
Look back through the bible and find me one person who was assured salvation who was not living for God of professing His name. Moses? Paul? Jesus? Peter? David? Zerubbabel? There is not one... and are we not supposed to live by this word example?
Look at Galatians 5:19-21 at the list of fruits produced by an evil spirit. Now take notice of what it says near the end of verse 21," That anyone living that sort of life will NOT inherit the Kingdom of God." Now assuming that everyone here accepts the word for what it is I might add that God knew what He was doing when He wrote the bible. He did not say: " That anyone living that sort of life will NOT inherit the Kingdom of God... EXCEPT THOSE WHO WERE SAVED EARLIER." This si common sense and a fact that cannot be argued. I am a firm believer that an apple tree cannot produce grapes unless God says it is so. In figure God says that a bad tree or one that produces these fruits cannot enter His Kingdom.
Now check out Galatians 5:22-23 which lists the fruits of the Holy Spirit which is GODS SPIRIT. So what do we find here? It is so simple. Gods spirit does not produce evil fruits so what does? Do you have Gods spirit if you are producing those fruits... absolutely not.
Another point that is unaviodable is Romans 10:13- For "Anyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Lets us not twist the word of God... It says calls! It does not say anyone who called on the name of the Lord will be saved nor does it say anyone who might call on the name of the Lord will be saved. Call is an action verb in the present tense. It is an everyday thing not a once in a lifetime ticket to heaven.
Revelation says clearly that Jesus stands at the door and knocks and anyone who opens the door invited Jesus to sup' with them. This does not say "and Jesus is locked in and cannot leave." In theory Jesus eats with you the fruits that you produce and to keep Him alive in you and the fruits growing you have to have Jesus.
We recieve the Holy Spirit to seal Gods promise of salvation as well as complete His task... Producing spoiled fruits is NOT his task.
Remember that every old testament reference has a New Testament counter-part. Malachi 3:7 states," Ever since the days of your ancestors, you have scorned my laws and failed to obey them. Now return to me and I will return to you," says the Lord almighty.
To say that we can have the Holy Spirit while we live in the world is like saying salvation is automatically given to us weather we want it or not. Gods grace is VERY sufficiant.. Yes, but He gives His grace to those who WANT it.
Romans 2:8- For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God.
O wait sooooooo we are saved by grace BUT by faith! Don't drink the milk without the cookies. Supplying the fruits of an evil spirit is not faith in God. I don't care how long you have been "saved" or when you plan on doing it... Salvation is a present thing either alive and well or gone.
When Paul referred to finishing the race before us he meant life. We must run the whole race to the finish line... Do those who stop midway get a reward? Revelation says those who are lukewarm will be spewed from Gods mouth... Im assuming this is a bad thing?!@ Yes it is.. and who are the lukewarm people? Would it be the saved who are fully in Christ or those who outwardly rebuke Him... Neither. It is those who are neither hot or cold but those who have accepted salvation but still live on a boarder line. They are not cold with the world nor are they on fire for Christ and God despises this!
Putting ANYTHING above God in life is idol worship and salvation is ONLY found in God.
Acts 4:12- There is salvation in no one else! There is no other name in all of heaven for people to call on to save them." I assure you that if we live for anything other then God we are submitting ourselves to it. Romans 6:16... whatever we choose to obey becomes our master and only one master hold our salvation. God has chosen the time of our salvation but "behold for today is the day of salvation." This statement is passive. Today is every day, we are saved from our sins every single day of our life.
In all this I have come to one conclusion about this statement that is NEVER mentioned or is even obviouse in the bible. It is a fake from satan taking part of Gods word and making it a whole lie. Most of the people I have known to believe this live their own lifestyle aside from God and that is the very reason they believe it. Once again I challenge anyone to find someone in the bible who was promised salvation that WAS NOT living for God.
Find a Manasseh in a reverse order. Find someone who became "saved" and then sacraficed their children to unknown gods and was completely evil in all their works and I want to see where God gives them salvation even though they do not want it. All this ludicrous statement is is a relaxer to all those who want to serve God their own way and not His.
And yes Reformationist I say these things in love and do understand them. Next time you may want to criticize yourself before you point out someones typo- (first criticism made concerning my last post.) If you have any more comments it may be best to PM me. Im sure you don't like me criticizing you in the open room so return the feeling brother.
Please listen with a heart of God to what has been said,
If you need detailed prayer please PM me, I will praying anyways.
In Christs Love,
All4one