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CareBear,
Christians are not the "unrighteous". When you are born again, you receive the GIFT of righteousness, which is God's own righteousness.
So, how can this verse be talking about Christians? The Bible (eg Paul's epistles) always refers to the believer as "beloved", "brethren", "sheep", etc.
you are righteous in God's eyes, as righteous as Jesus himself, loved by God as much as God loves Jesus. And you are in this blessed state becos of what Jesus did for you which you received by faith. And you can never lose this state unless Jesus loses his standing b4 the Father.
Christians are not the "unrighteous". When you are born again, you receive the GIFT of righteousness, which is God's own righteousness.
So, how can this verse be talking about Christians? The Bible (eg Paul's epistles) always refers to the believer as "beloved", "brethren", "sheep", etc.
you are righteous in God's eyes, as righteous as Jesus himself, loved by God as much as God loves Jesus. And you are in this blessed state becos of what Jesus did for you which you received by faith. And you can never lose this state unless Jesus loses his standing b4 the Father.
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Right, but what if you remove yourself from union with Jesus?Andrew said:CareBear,
And you are in this blessed state becos of what Jesus did for you which you received by faith. And you can never lose this state unless Jesus loses his standing b4 the Father.
Can backsliders or anyone out of fellowship with God still cast out devils and heal the sick?
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