On the spectrum, don't want to be "healed"

[Sabertooth]

I was only talking about the MMR vaccine-autism link claim, which has nothing to do with allergies.

My post [#11] suggests that it does. It is a different paradigm.

Some of my children and I were born [mildly] autistic. (Vaccines didn't make us this way.) Our native immune system issues caused two of them to sustain vaccine-injury brain damage on top of our inherited autism.

 

[GodLovesCats]

OK now that is different.

 

[NIrelandGillian]

Right. I totally hear you on that! We've been through therapists and etc... throughout his life and we are still stuck in many, many ways. Mostly we ask him questions and just have him answer "yes" or "no" to so we can get an idea what he's trying to say. He has been getting better recently, but we're praying specific prayers over him and it is helping.

So glad to hear that your son has been getting better. The occasions of J's frustrations with words are becoming less frequent, but he does still have anger issues.

Gillian

 

[BryanJohnMaloney]

Autism is cool. It is the severe co-morbid conditions that need help or healing.

In DSM5-speak, I am an ASD1 father of NTs(?), other ASD1s, an ASD2 and an ASD3.

Where, specifically, in the DSM5 are ASD1, ASD2, and ASD3 explicitly defined. I have a DSM5, and it doesn't appear to mention them.

 

[BryanJohnMaloney]

I was only talking about the MMR vaccine-autism link claim, which has nothing to do with allergies.

There is no such link, except in the minds of quacks and those duped by quacks.

 

[BryanJohnMaloney]

I am not that bad but have made up words a few times. Once I asked my aunt if her late husband was an "explorative" eater. I knew explorative is not a word but could not think of the word adventurous. When I was shoppintg for a living room chair and bed mattress, I called them "cushy" as in cushion.

My wife, who has no diagnoses, does this. Aphasia can be symptomatic of nothing. At least you come up with reasonable substitutes. Imagine having conversations with someone who uses "thing" for any word at all.

The worst part is that her daughters all know exactly what she means.

 

[Sabertooth]

Where, specifically, in the DSM5 are ASD1, ASD2, and ASD3 explicitly defined. I have a DSM5, and it doesn't appear to mention them.

See PM.

 

[Amittai]

I just love explorative eating! And explorative everything! My parents though understated and apparently staid, were intellectually adventurous within their limited resources. And we didn't make a fuss about demonstrativeness.

 

[God saves]

Where, specifically, in the DSM5 are ASD1, ASD2, and ASD3 explicitly defined. I have a DSM5, and it doesn't appear to mention them.

DSM V mentions severity levels with people whose ASD is classed as level 1 severity "requiring support", level 2 "requiring substantial support" and level 3 "requiring very substantial support" (source: Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) | CDC).

 

[God saves]

Right. I totally hear you on that! We've been through therapists and etc... throughout his life and we are still stuck in many, many ways. Mostly we ask him questions and just have him answer "yes" or "no" to so we can get an idea what he's trying to say. He has been getting better recently, but we're praying specific prayers over him and it is helping.

That's wonderful to hear! Sounds like your son has relatively good receptive language skills which is great.

 

[Kinable]

I love being on the spectrum, I can't imagine my life without autism and wouldn't want it cured either. Without it I wouldn't be me you know?

 

[Amittai]

We advance in our adaptiveness out of sheer reposnibility-taking. For example, I discerned that acquintances were gormless. This challenged me to decide in individual cases whom to ditch and whom to carry on relating to but warily. It is rocket science and we do get into it!

 

[Amittai]

I love being on the spectrum, I can't imagine my life without autism and wouldn't want it cured either. Without it I wouldn't be me you know?

There is no such thing as a cure for it. It's not an excuse for not using our faculties. God expects us to use our faculties and not kow tow to what our supposed superiors drum into us. I hope you will develop an appetite.

Why have you used being autistic as your excuse to kow tow to what your supposed superiors drum in to you?

 

[JesseBassett]

I for one am thankful Autism has no cure. I agree with Kinable. We would not be ourselves without our Autism. It defines us and helps us in my opinion grow closer to the Divine God.

 

[MusicCat71]

Cured? Healing? Autism is not a sickness...it's a diversion from neuro-typical behavior. We're simply different not sick.

 

[kelman]

There is a school of thought that lower-functioning autism [ASD2/3] is Aspergers ASD1 with amplified co-morbid conditions, caused by a neonatal injury. The likely culprit is a reaction to certain vaccines that are turning ASD1s (a good thing) into ASD2/3s (not turning NTs into autistics).

Has anyone written on this? Where can I find it? Thanks

 

[Sabertooth]

Has anyone written on this? Where can I find it? Thanks

Dr. Martha Herbert has proposed the "injured ASD1" model, though not due to fetal-cell vaccines specifically.

 

[kelman]

Cured? Healing? Autism is not a sickness...it's a diversion from neuro-typical behavior. We're simply different not sick.

That’s correct. The neuro-typical mind generally lacks understanding. Just try to speak to nt’s about autism or ocd and they struggle with comprehension. I’m asd1 and have come to the conclusion that it has made my personal understanding of God and the Bible increase. It’s not a sickness just a different way of thinking and I believe a more accurate way of thinking in certain ways.

 

[kelman]

Dr. Martha Herbert has proposed the "injured ASD1" model, though not due to fetal-cell vaccines specifically.

I’m asd1 and so is my son. His son (He is 1 1/2 years) suffered some brain complications at birth. His oxygen was cut off and he shows signs of being even more autistic. I’ll look into this. Thank you

 

[Sabertooth]

I’ll look into this. Thank you

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