On Modrn Health, and Conspiracy Theories

[Stephen3141]

For almost a century it has also been the primary main most common cause of sickness and death.

I CANNOT agree with your assertion.

Modern medicine has almost made extinct, many forms of death that were
common, before the discovery/invention of modern antibiotics and vaccines.
Surgery, was made possible, by modern medicines.

I assert that only a person who is badly out of touch with history, can continue
to say that modern medicine is the main cause of serious disease, now.
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One of the complications, in talking with anti-intellectual Christians on this topic
of modern medicine, is that many modern anti-intellectual Christian groups have
rejected the entire METHODOLOGY of modern science, using controlled
studies and Mill's Methods (of agreement and disagreement) and the Formal
Logic definition of logical causality. When a group throws out the entire structure
of formal logic reasoning, then they do not have the REASONING TOOLS to recognize
the validity of modern controlled studies in the area of medicine. THEN, unfortunately,
they are susceptible to poorly conducted studies, or GroupThink, or emotional
arguments, or conspiracy theories, that do not meet the rigorous standards of
research in the areas of modern medicine.

"Big Idea...

We see Thomas Aquinas developing first cause and first mover arguments, because causality is at the heart of every logical rule (A ==> B). And Thomas was concerned with building a logical approach to theology. We read this form of rule as “A logically causes B,” or “A logically entails B,” or “B logically follows from A.” This logical causality is at the heart of formal logic. And it is this objective sense of causality, that modern Christians (and secular people) have lost.

If modern Christians do not (again) reappropriate the massive intellectual heritage of Christianity, we will be plagued by trivial and ludicrous definitions of causality." [Christian Logic, Wuest, xxiii]

"When younger generations replace formal reasoning with emotions, then they can reach (literally) any conclusion. And trying to convince someone who has left logic behind, why their argument is illogical and invalid, is an activity that does not have a high probability of success. The many examples of very emotional people engaging in all sorts of rioting, looting, and glorying in their lawlessness, underlines how completely emotional behavior has replaced fixed truth in the lives of many people. [Christian Logic, Wuest, xxv]

"Apologists who don’t distinguish between an (unauthoritative) explanation of a doctrine, as opposed to an authoritative defense of that doctrine, may as well be appealing to the Tooth Fairy to lend credibility/authority to their argument. Again, we see the worthlessness of arbitrary “story-telling” to defend the faith. It also underlines problems with using emotionally appealing arguments, to explain the faith.

Without formal reasoning, Christian apologetics is gutted." [Christian Logic, xxvii]

"Can Christian leaders/teachers, who aged in a largely logic-free culture, apprehend what the intellectual heritage of Christianity is?
The short answer is, “Probably not.”

The anti-intellectual or emotional approach to apologetics is very different than walking through the approach of the early Christian apologists (who used formal logic, and logical arguments)." [Christian Logic, Wuest, xxix]
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The anti-intellectual approach (to everything) that some Christian groups use, is
INCOMPATIBLE with historical, orthodox Christianity.

 

[Johan2222]

I was talking specifically about the ad populam logical fallacy.

If you want to be specific about theology, you need to specify
what you think this verse means. Jesus is talking to the Pharisees,
who like to make themselves out as righteous before "men".

I hardly think that Jesus is addressing a larger principle.

God does not flip flop like a man and he has confirmed that principal throughout scripture that those who proclaim the wisdom God are the few and the despised and those who proclaim the wisdom of the world are the loved and the esteemed.

1 Corinthians 1:27-28 KJV
But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; [28] And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

2 Timothy 3:12 KJV
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Ecclesiastes 9:13-16 KJV
This wisdom have I seen also under the sun, and it seemed great unto me: [14] There was a little city, and few men within it; and there came a great king against it, and besieged it, and built great bulwarks against it: [15] Now there was found in it a poor wise man, and he by his wisdom delivered the city; yet no man remembered that same poor man. [16] Then said I, Wisdom is better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom is despised, and his words are not heard.

Luke 21:17 KJV
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

2 Corinthians 12:15 KJV
And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved.

God is not the author of confusion and if you think that you can pick specific scriptures that disagree with the theme of other scriptures, it is hardly any wonder that you believe what you do.

Isaiah 53:3 KJV
He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Anybody who has the mind of Christ and who proclaims the wisdom of God will be despised and rejected by men.

Nevertheless, I know the scripture is true.

Proverbs 27:22 KJV
Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.