On How American Law, Works

[Stephen3141]

Courts Handed Trump A Slew of Legal Losses This Week

Read more here.

www.democracydocket.com

Some of the younger generations of Christians in America, (I assert), need a
REMINDER of the relationship between the people of God, and the system of
law that America has.

The relationship between the People of God, and the "state", can have a number
of different relationships, as laid out in the different possibilities in Niebuhr's book...

Christ and Culture book by H. Richard Niebuhr

American Christian congregations would be able to think MUCH MORE INTELLIGENTLY
about topics such as this, IF they bothered to read what historical Christians have had
to say about this issue.

In the American fair rule of law, there are some very basic principles...
(I assert)...

1 The founding documents (such as the Declaration of Independence, the
Constitution, and Bill of Rights) lay out the ideals for the new nation.

2 New laws are made by Congress, which is comprised of people elected
by the legal voters in America.

3 The laws are interpretted by the Judiciary.

4 The Executive branch has the duty of carrying out the interpretation of the
laws, as the Judiciary has decided.

5 The laws that Congress makes, must conform to any constraints in the founding
documents, and previous laws made. This decision of compliance, is ultimately
made by the Supreme Court.
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NOTE that this American process of deciding what is "legal" in America, IS NOT
the same process that decides what God's moral-ethical law is.

NOTE that Christian morality-ethics, is NOT quite the same as what is acceptable
under the fair rule of law in America. (I assert, that Christians who think that
the moral-ethical law of God's People who think that Christian morality is defined
by the founding documents of America, are BADLY mistaken.) This is the problem,
I assert, with the "Christian Nationalism" movement.

NOTE that specific situations such as the topic of this article (most Americans want
voters to have a standard voter ID) should be handled by...

Voters electing members of Congress, who will write a law requiring all
voters to have a standard voter ID...

The law must pass the constraints of the founding documents of America,
according to the interpretation of these documents, by the Judiciary...

THEN, the Executive branch may enforce that all voters must have this
standard voter ID.
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When the current president asserts that what "most voters want" should
immediately have the power of law in America, he is acting outside the fair
rule of law in America. Congress needs to pass this law. The Judicaty needs
to vet the law for constitutionality. THEN the president can enforce this
law.

By bypassing the due process of how laws are made in America, the current
president is putting himself ABOVE THE LAW. And, as long as the current
president continues to make assertions such as this, that are OUTSIDE THE
LAW, he should not be shocked that the Judiciary rules against him, again and
again, because he is ACTING OUTSIDE THE LAW.

The current president should stop trying to act outside the law, and should
rather try to implement his policies, WITHIN THE LEGAL PROCESS IN
AMERICA.

 

[Valletta]

By bypassing the due process of how laws are made in America, the current
president is putting himself ABOVE THE LAW. And, as long as the current
president continues to make assertions such as this, that are OUTSIDE THE
LAW, he should not be shocked that the Judiciary rules against him, again and
again, because he is ACTING OUTSIDE THE LAW.

The current president should stop trying to act outside the law, and should
rather try to implement his policies, WITHIN THE LEGAL PROCESS IN
AMERICA.

Joe Biden deported people in a similar way, depriving people of what you consider "due process," and very few Democrats raised their voices.

 

[rambot]

Joe Biden deported people in a similar way, depriving people of what you consider "due process," and very few Democrats raised their voices.

Honestly these posts just read like madlibs now.

There's no thought put into them...its just reflexive

 

[Stephen3141]

I'm not talking about one political party, or another.

I'm talking about the fair rule of law in America, and how it works.
And especially, how law is created, in America. And, how it is
interpretted.

It's you guys, who think that I am addressing a political position.
I am not.

 

[Valletta]

Honestly these posts just read like madlibs now.

There's no thought put into them...its just reflexive

Your second sentence can best be applied to your first.

 

[Valletta]

Honestly these posts just read like madlibs now.

There's no thought put into them...its just reflexive

“While the administration should be lauded for its efforts to provide children and families access to the court system, its failure to ensure legal representation has produced a massive due process crisis,” said Talia Inlender, Deputy Director of the Center for Immigration Law and Policy (CILP) at the UCLA School of Law. “It should be obvious that immigration court proceedings are far too complex for children to navigate without legal representation, especially when the consequences are so dire. The Biden administration must take swift action to ensure legal representation for all children in immigration court.”

No Fair Day: Damning New Report Reveals the Biden Administration’s Unlawful Treatment of Children in Immigration Courts

Data show that tens of thousands of children have been ordered deported, most without legal representation or a fair day in court CONTACT Hayley Burgess, UCLA Center for Immigration Law and Policy, burgess@law.ucla.edu

law.ucla.edu

There was little outcry, UCLA was very much the exception.

 

[Malleeboy]

I think you need to look at the presuppositions to USA law, which is based in English common law. The USA and its constitution and laws didn't get created from nothing.

Why do juries exist?
Where does "no taxation without representation" come from? (Americans often talk as if they come up with it, not that it was a central component of the British Civil War)
Why does the HoR have a speaker? Why does the HoR speaker get escorted to the chair?