Oklahoma orders first shipment of Bibles for use in public school classrooms

[2PhiloVoid]

I think students should be required to hand copy the entire Bible and memorize it, just like monks in medieval monasteries.

Not only this, but students should be made to copy and recite the Bible in both Greek and Latin as well...................................

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Why should what be an issue? Requiring te Bible to be read in a government school?

Yes, why is that a problem?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Yes, why is that a problem?

because seperation of church and state.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

We are officially a secular country and don’t have a state church?

Does the secular state mandate a curriculum of certain texts? Like the US constitution? Why should the bible be verboten?

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

because seperation of church and state.

Is that something you wish to defend?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Is that something you wish to defend?

yes

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

yes

Do you approve of the secular state mandating the reading of secular books in public school?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Do you approve of the secular state mandating the reading of secular books in public school?

depends on the book. Are we talking about history books random books? Classics?

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

depends on the book. Are we talking about history books random books? Classics?

It could be any book. Are you pro secular education and forcing kids to read any secular book in the curriculum?

Do you find the bible unfit for educational purposes? Do you consider it a false text which teaches falsehoods?

 

[dogs4thewin]

It could be any book. Are you pro secular education and forcing kids to read any secular book in the curriculum?

Do you find the bible unfit for educational purposes?

Do I find the Bible unfit no but it has no place as required reading in public schools. With the exception of maybe if a world reglion class is offered and you are required to read portions of other relgious books as well as the Bible.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Do I find the Bible unfit no but it has no place as required reading in public schools. With the exception of maybe if a world reglion class is offered and you are required to read portions of other relgious books as well as the Bible.

The bible has no place in public schools? Yet secular books do? Can you explain your reasoning for preferring secular texts over the bible? Are they superior? Is the bible equal to all other religious texts?

 

[Lukaris]

That’s unfortunate.

I’m not a huge fan of the KJV, to be honest. Find the language a bit archaic.

I agree and it must become more so in every generation. It remains a great translation in itself but time takes its toll. Still, for $1.25, I would rate it highly in respect to the expression: “you get what you pay for” in this case. I think for anyone in immediate need of a Bible, the Dollar Tree option is ok. ( I don’t work for $ tree).

 

[dogs4thewin]

The bible has no place in public schools? Yet secular books do? Can you explain your reasoning for preferring secular texts over the bible? Are they superior?

Note I said the Bibe has no place as REQUIRED reading in public schools. If a student wishes to bring a Bible to school to read at a Christian club or even on heir own time that is perfectly fine, but the Bible has no place as required reading nor does the Qu'ran nor does the Torah or any other relgious book. On the other hand, it is important to know history no matter what your chosen relgion, the classics are classics for a reason and it is imprtant to have a basic understanding of things ike science no matter your personal beliefs

 

[Michie]

I agree and it must become more so in every generation. It remains a great translation in itself but time takes its toll. Still, for $1.25, I would rate it highly in respect to the expression: “you get what you pay for” in this case. I think for anyone in immediate need of a Bible, the Dollar Tree option is ok. ( I don’t work for $ tree).

Rescue Missions usually have them for free in their thrift stores.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Note I said the Bibe has no place as REQUIRED reading in public schools. If a student wishes to bring a Bible to school to read at a Christian club or even on heir own time that is perfectly fine, but the Bible has no place as required reading nor does the Qu'ran nor does the Torah or any other relgious book. On the other hand, it is important to know history no matter what your chosen relgion, the classics are classics for a reason and it is imprtant to have a basic understanding of things ike science no matter your personal beliefs

Would you consider the US constitution required reading?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Would you consider the US constitution required reading?

closer to it than the Bible. Though I am not sure how reasonable it would be to have enough copies of the constitution for all public schools or even all public high schools.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

closer to it than the Bible. Though I am not sure how reasonable it would be to have enough copies of the constitution for all public schools or even all public high schools.

Huh? US schools don't teach the Constitution?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Huh? US schools don't teach the Constitution?

You asked should it be required reading not required learning. Should students be required to learn about the constitution the general set up branches of government amendments ECT YES which they do. That does not mean that the student is given a copy of the consitution to read word for word or even scan like they are given copies of certain classic books to read and have tests over particular details.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

You asked should it be required reading not required learning. Should students be required to learn about the constitution the general set up branches of government amendments ECT YES which they do. That does not mean that the student is given a copy of the consitution to read word for word or even scan like they are given copies of certain classic books to read and have tests over particular details.

So they should be required to learn about it but not read the text? Can you explain how they learn about the constitution without access to the text?

Do you believe it is good to inculcate the values of the text in children?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Huh? US schools don't teach the Constitution?

Many, if not most, public schools here require students to take a Government class and a U.S. History class through which the essential civic principles of the Bill of Rights are taught and instilled.