Ok, so now they're just teasing...... :)

[Michael]

Mars Mystery: Has Curiosity Rover Made Big Discovery? - Yahoo! News

Evidence of organic compounds on Mars perhaps?

 

[46AND2]

Mars Mystery: Has Curiosity Rover Made Big Discovery? - Yahoo! News

Evidence of organic compounds on Mars perhaps?

nice. this is exciting...news. Hopefully it isn't anticlimactic.

 

[Michael]

When Clinton announced evidence for 'past life on Mars', now *that* was a "big deal". Of course it was later called in question by lots of scientists from around the world. I think they time they intend to be cautious, but they've learned a bit about 'advertizing' in advance. Nice job piquing my interest.

 

[CabVet]

This sounds very exciting, I wonder what it will mean for abiogenesis if they do find life on Mars and if it looks like abiogenesis predicts it should be (simple, bacteria-like).

 

[SkyWriting]

This sounds very exciting, I wonder what it will mean for abiogenesis if they do find life on Mars and if it looks like abiogenesis predicts it should be (simple, bacteria-like).

The story is that they found evidence of running liquid. It's been said the poles have water for years. I don't even see what the news is yet.

 

[46AND2]

The story is that they found evidence of running liquid. It's been said the poles have water for years. I don't even see what the news is yet.

Yeah, that would qualify as anticlimactic. Not worth a two week teaser, anyway.

 

[Davian]

"It turns out the whole thing was a big misunderstanding, according to Mashable's Amanda Wills. And not a transmission garbled over the hundreds of millions of miles separating Curiosity from her NASA minders back here on Earth, but rather some crossed signals of a much more pedestrian variety and much closer to home.
When Curiosity chief scientist John Grotzinger told NPR last week that the Mars rover had found something that "is gonna be one for the history books," speculation about the possibly discovery of evidence of organic life quickly went into overdrive."


Curiosity's 'Historic' Mars Discovery Just a Big Misunderstanding | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

 

[CabVet]

"It turns out the whole thing was a big misunderstanding, according to Mashable's Amanda Wills. And not a transmission garbled over the hundreds of millions of miles separating Curiosity from her NASA minders back here on Earth, but rather some crossed signals of a much more pedestrian variety and much closer to home.
When Curiosity chief scientist John Grotzinger told NPR last week that the Mars rover had found something that "is gonna be one for the history books," speculation about the possibly discovery of evidence of organic life quickly went into overdrive."


Curiosity's 'Historic' Mars Discovery Just a Big Misunderstanding | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

Well that sucks.

 

[Michael]

Well that sucks.

Do you recall the "historic" discovery made by NASA's Mars rover which the space agency appeared to be teasing last week? Curiosity had reportedly found something that "is gonna be one for the history books," a proclamation which had space enthusiasts the world over guessing that evidence of life had been discovered on the Red Planet.
Yeah, not so much. Or at least not yet, anyway.
It turns out the whole thing was a big misunderstanding, according to Mashable's Amanda Wills.

The teasing is just so painful when it's all a big misunderstanding!


Oh well. I still like the pretty pictures.

 

[Michael]

Mars Exploration Rover Mission: Press Releases

Apparently someone at NASA (or a NASA spoofer) has a sense of humor about all this, or some really drunk babe in the French Quarter in New Orleans during Katrina lost her collection of plastic beads and they somehow ended up on Mars.

 

[SkyWriting]

"Mars rover had found something that "is gonna be one for the history books," speculation about the possibly discovery of evidence of organic life quickly went into overdrive."

Curiosity's 'Historic' Mars Discovery Just a Big Misunderstanding | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

A PERFECT illustration of the lack of realistic objectivity surrounding the search for ET life.

 

[SkyWriting]

Mars Exploration Rover Mission: Press Releases

Apparently someone at NASA (or a NASA spoofer) has a sense of humor about all this, or some really drunk babe in the French Quarter in New Orleans during Katrina lost her collection of plastic beads and they somehow ended up on Mars.

I tracked down some unreleased NASA photos of what they found:

 

[Loudmouth]

A PERFECT illustration of the lack of realistic objectivity surrounding the search for ET life.

No, it's another example of the lack of communication between scientists and the general press. This has been a problem for quite some time now that tons of scientists have complained about. Sadly, the media is looking for stories and will often twist the words of scientists to get that story.

 

[SkyWriting]

No, it's another example of the lack of communication between scientists and the general press. This has been a problem for quite some time now that tons of scientists have complained about. Sadly, the media is looking for stories and will often twist the words of scientists to get that story.

Oh. I was referring to the lack of scientific objectivity in the forum.
But you make a good point.

 

[46AND2]

Oh. I was referring to the lack of scientific objectivity in the forum.
But you make a good point.

I don't think anyone on this forum claimed to know what the news was going to be. We certainly expressed excitement about what it could mean, but what was stated in this thread was hardly a lack of objectivity.

We even stated that it would suck if the news was actually anticlimactic which clearly shows that we were keeping that option open...and we were right. It does suck.

I'm wondering if you could point to something that someone in here said that demonstrates a lack of objectivity?

 

[Loudmouth]

Oh. I was referring to the lack of scientific objectivity in the forum.
But you make a good point.

Lack of objectivity? For one, it appeared to me that everyone was pretty realistic about it. Second, I don't think it is a stretch to suspect that they found organics related to life when that was exactly what the probe was designed to detect.

 

[SkyWriting]

I don't think anyone on this forum claimed to know what the news was going to be. We certainly expressed excitement about what it could mean, but what was stated in this thread was hardly a lack of objectivity. We even stated that it would suck if the news was actually anticlimactic which clearly shows that we were keeping that option open...and we were right. It does suck. I'm wondering if you could point to something that someone in here said that demonstrates a lack of objectivity?

Naturally your lack of objectivity is invisible to you. I've bolded the language you've used to display your lack of scientific objectivity above.

It sucks that you are unaware of how emotions will effect ones objectivity.

Scientists generally should be objective and dispassionate, devoid of emotion and bias in the conduct of their own work and their critiques of others.

Unless you favor bias and emotional preference? I do.

 

[46AND2]

Naturally your lack of objectivity is invisible to you. I've bolded the language you've used to display your lack of scientific objectivity above.

It sucks that you are unaware of how emotions will effect ones objectivity.

Scientists generally should be objective and dispassionate, devoid of emotion and bias in the conduct of their own work and their critiques of others.

Unless you favor bias and emotional preference? I do.

Scientists are not robots. Nor do they need to be to look at things objectively. There is far more than just signs of life that would be interesting to science about discoveries on Mars. Even things that could prove previous assumptions wrong.

If people were not fascinated and passionate about discovering new things, regardless of what those results were, we would never have put the rover on Mars in the first place.

My interests lie in geology; specifically geochronology. There are a number of things that could have been revealed about the rover find which would have elicited awe.

Nowhere did I speculate about what the find might be. In fact, I would have preferred that it was something other than signs of microbial life. The discovery of organic compounds would not be particularly surprising to me, as it is thought to be a reasonable possibility. What would have been awesome is finding something totally unexpected.

Discovering new things (even just new-to-you things) is exciting to scientists. It's why they become scientists in the first place. That you think this somehow creates a lack of objectivity is way off base. Scientists are often excited about results that are opposite of what they expected.

Figuring out how things work is exciting.

And you are blowing it out of proportion, anyway. When I say excited, we aren't talking about giddy-like-a-school-girl excited.

 

[Jamin4422]

Mars Mystery: Has Curiosity Rover Made Big Discovery? - Yahoo! News

Evidence of organic compounds on Mars perhaps?

Actually there are Christians that believe this is a living universe. That there was life on the other planets before the fall and when God restores the earth He will restore life to the other planets. They say that just about anywhere you go on earth you will find life.

 

[Jamin4422]

What would have been awesome is finding something totally unexpected.

Then you should become a Christian. God often works in unexpected ways so that we know that He was the one that did the work. We know that we did not in anyway create the results. Clearly God created US we did not Create God.