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Lewis, I stated that that was not my list. There were some things in there that I just left in there because I didn't feel like taking it out.
Yasic, he never said your statement was a half-truth. Please go back up and read his post. He merely pointed out that you used that term.
Lewis, I stated that that was not my list. There were some things in there that I just left in there because I didn't feel like taking it out.
Yasic, he never said your statement was a half-truth. Please go back up and read his post. He merely pointed out that you used that term.
QV Post 2 --- what is a "truth" in the first place - (whole, half, or quarter)? And why are atheists even typing that word?
Four verses in Romans 8 ---So AV, where does the Bible say that the 2nd LoTD started after the fall?
That word creature means all of God's creation --- animate and inanimate.Romans 8:19 said:For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
What is vanity here? Entropy.Romans 8:20 said:For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
What is the bondage of corruption here? Entropy.Romans 8:21 said:Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Why is the whole universe groaning and travailing in pain? Because entropy is universal.Romans 8:22 said:For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
Dr. Henry M. Morris --- Defender's Study Bible --- Romans 8:21 said:"Corruption" is equivalent to "decay," and this is yet another way of stating the entropy principle. Everything tends to decay, running down from a created state of organized complexity to one of randomness and disorganized chaos. This law is thus called a "bondage;" the universe is enslaved by it, and there is no natural principle available to supersede it. Such a law is clearly the exact converse of the notion of evolution, which views the universe as gradually organizing itself over long ages by natural processes into its present state of high complexity and activity. The entropy law, which is supported without exception by all observation and scientific study, seems to stipulate that evolution on any significant scale is impossible. It also explains the fact that evolution has never been observed to occur in the present and the fact that there is no evidence it ever occurred in the past.
Hey --- I'm not the one who claims there is no such thing as "truth." In fact, Christianity got started on what is called "infallible proofs," something I'm sure is anathema to scientists.My name on here is 'yasic'
That is a truth. Not all atheists do drugs or drink heavily, that is a lie. Do you not agree with this?
Four verses in Romans 8 ---That word creature means all of God's creation --- animate and inanimate.What is vanity here? Entropy.What is the bondage of corruption here? Entropy.Why is the whole universe groaning and travailing in pain? Because entropy is universal.
First off Shicoco, are you a creationist? a YEC?
I don't consider myself a Creationist, because I do not think it makes sense to make a science out of something that is illogical.
This thread is directed at creationists
(parenthetical addition mine)How is it we (non YEC Creationists) are lied to?
This thread is directed at creationists
Creationists stumble through the dark room until they find the light switch. Clinging blissfully thereto, they announce they have found the light. A scientist will flick the switch, realise it doesn't work, and make progress to fix the wiring while the Creationist sits there in the dark, stagnating with broken light switch in hand because they are satisfied with what they have and no empirical evidence will convince them to the contrary that a light switch means light. When the scientist accomplishes the task, the light will flicker on and the Creationist will claim that they had found it years before and had had it all along.
That is the difference.
So you knew it was incorrect but were to lazy to take the argument out? Help me understand your reasoning here. Because the way I see it, every time you perpetuate a statement that you know is incorrect, or have grave suspicions is incorrect, you are in fact perpetuating a lie.Lewis, I stated that that was not my list. There were some things in there that I just left in there because I didn't feel like taking it out.
This is biased in these ways:
1. It does not tell how the scientist got to the light switch, but it does for the Christian.
2. The light wasn't broken for the Christian (or rather the condition was omitted), but it was for the scientist, until afterwards, making the scientist look good
The OP made a rookie mistake that apparently no one but a creationist caught. Not bad for being "lied to and liars," are we?The OP was specifically addressing Creationism, rather than religions generally.
That door swings both ways:To continue my point, the biggest liars in creationism are those at the 'top'.
Are you saying that the Allen Telescope Array and LHC are lies, or founded by/run by/promoted by liars?That door swings both ways:
I'm saying that S.E.T.I. scientists got our government to stick their hands in our pockets and fund their junk science, until the government woke up and put a stop to it.Are you saying that the Allen Telescope Array and LHC are lies, or founded by/run by/promoted by liars?
Im sure Im not seeing your point *confused*
Are you saying that the Allen Telescope Array and LHC are lies, or founded by/run by/promoted by liars?
Im sure Im not seeing your point *confused*
Four verses in Romans 8 ---That word creature means all of God's creation --- animate and inanimate.What is vanity here? Entropy.What is the bondage of corruption here? Entropy.Why is the whole universe groaning and travailing in pain? Because entropy is universal.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics was set in motion in Genesis 3 - after the Fall.
Evolution, which is a form of sun worship,
says that the sun provides the energy needed to keep life going on this planet.
Yet, for some inexplicable reason, this supposedly life-sustaining aten cannot prevent death from occurring, nor can it bring the dead back alive.
No, the Second Law cannot prevent microevolution from occurring, but, sans divine intervention, will shut down the primary god that evolution worships.
Has it occurred to you that in Eternity Future there will be no need of the sun?
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