Oh so many questions

[Sparkalinda]

well, I havent told you the other half of the truth. Heaven is good, and hell is not. Heaven is meant for those perfect, hell is for those who are not perfect.

-VC

Thanks for clarifying that for me, I was a bit hazy on that point.

From what it seems, humankind cannot get into heaven, and will therefore go to hell. If this were the end of the line, I too would be in the same boat that you are in. I would regard this as stupid and walk away from Christianity, but I have not. -VC

The funny thing is I would be more likely to accept "Christianity" were it not for the divinity thing. Sure Christianity without divinity is kinda like scotch and water without the scotch but hey water is better for you on its own.

Our lives may go through many, many troubles but God will always be there. He created you and longs for you to recognise it.

-VC

Again, it gets back to the point I made earlier. With this kind of logic you can be, do, say anything you like through out your life as long as you see the light on your death bed your in!

It has been said a number of times in this thread… That without belief in the divinity of Jesus what would be the point in leading a "good life". Perhaps I am just twisted but is becoming more and more obvious that it is actually the other way around. If you do accept Jesus regardless of when, you are saved, so what would be the point of living a "good life" if you can be saved at the bell?

 

[JJB]

If you do accept Jesus regardless of when, you are saved, so what would be the point of living a "good life" if you can be saved at the bell?

But when will that bell ring? Nobody knows, but we all know it eventually does ring. What if you are not on a "deathbed", but rather in an accident and there is no time? I pray that wouldn't happen, but it does happen to people. I only bring it up to spur you on in your considerations of Jesus.

From my own experience, I've lived both lives: One with Jesus, one without. I prefer my life with Jesus than the life I led without Him. Without even considering being saved or living a "good life" to get to heaven, it is just a sweeter experience to go through life with Jesus. If there was no heaven or reward for believers, I would still choose my current life.

 

[WashedClean]

So let me get this straight. I am a bad, nasty, horrible person and will never be a good person with or without god, just that with god I will be rewarded in the end. hmmm may be I should start going to church and rob senior citizens for a living if it doesn't matter what I do.

No, No, No! The Bible teaches that when one becomes a Christian, they are a new creature. God begins to work on your heart and change your desires to be more in line with His will. We are to become more and more like His Son. Now, we are never perfect as long as we're on this earth, but we are striving to be.

If someone claims to be a Christian but lives their life in rebellion toward God without any remorse, they are probably not a Christian. See, once you are born-again, you no longer have the same desires. You still sin (hopefully less and less), but you're trying not to, with God's help. It's the difference between Justification, which happens at the moment you put your faith in Christ, and Sanctification, which is a lifelong process.

I hope I'm making sense.

 

[Serapha]

Hi there!



Understanding and accepting the divinity of Christ is important because only God can forgive sins.

Reconciliation to God is through Jesus Christ. It is Christ who forgives your sins, and without that forgiveness, then you remain unreconciled to God.




~serapha~

 

[Sparkalinda]

If someone claims to be a Christian but lives their life in rebellion toward God without any remorse, they are probably not a Christian.

Boy I sure know a few people who are in for a shock when judgment day comes.

Can you say fiery depths? Sure you can, all together now FIERY DEPTHS.

 

[sinner/SAVED]

"fiery Depths!"

 

[Sparkalinda]

"fiery Depths!"

Amen

 

[WashedClean]

Boy I sure know a few people who are in for a shock when judgment day comes.

Can you say fiery depths? Sure you can, all together now FIERY DEPTHS.

I can say it, and mean it. But I weep for those who will be surprised on Judgment Day. I fear many of them are my loved ones. My husband is unsaved, but he knows it. Even if one knows Judgment Day is coming and you're not prepared, they still have no idea what is in for them. This saddens me deeply and I wish it weren't true.