Oh MY...

[woobadooba]

Some of the stuff that is being preached in GT is just outrageous!

I mean, so many people in there are advocating views that they have absolutely no Biblical support for; and when you try to show them what the Bible really says about those issues they accuse you of not belonging to the body of Christ, or something else to that effect.

For example, there is a person in there right now who is stating that Jesus is the sabbath Day!

http://www.christianforums.com/t2909809-will-the-true-sabbath-day-please-resurrect.html

Now if Jesus is the Sabbath day why didn't the Apostles teach this?

And if Jesus were the sabbath day then was Isaiah off his rocker when he spoke of the Sabbath in 66:23 as a literal day that would be honored for all eternity?

The idea that Jesus is the Sabbath day may sound nice, but it just isn't Biblical.
In fact, the thrust behind it is to express the idea that it isn't a literal day, but that it is merely spiritual. The danger in this is that it promotes a Christianity that has no basis in the word of God. You see, if we can just spiritualize everything then what do we need the Bible for? In other words, if we can just make up our own doctrines then what sense is there in studying the word of God? Do you see the problem here?

What are we after, the truth as it is disclosed in the Bible or nice ideas that tickle the ears?

Some people just don't get it! They don't see the danger that lies before their path.

 

[MidnightCry]

woobadooba,

You are so right. I think it is because so many people who say they follow Jesus do not read and study the Bible for themself. They are too busy with work, movies, recreation, TV -- almost anything except Bible study.

Jesus said, "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." (Matthew 7: 13,14).

Doesn't the Bible also say that many in the last days will follow doctrine that tickles the ear? It sounds so good and comfortable -- and leads to destruction.

 

[Cliff2]

Some of the stuff that is being preached in GT is just outrageous!

I mean, so many people in there are advocating views that they have absolutely no Biblical support for; and when you try to show them what the Bible really says about those issues they accuse you of not belonging to the body of Christ, or something else to that effect.

For example, there is a person in there right now who is stating that Jesus is the sabbath Day!

http://www.christianforums.com/t2909809-will-the-true-sabbath-day-please-resurrect.html

Now if Jesus is the Sabbath day why didn't the Apostles teach this?

And if Jesus were the sabbath day then was Isaiah off his rocker when he spoke of the Sabbath in 66:23 as a literal day that would be honored for all eternity?

The idea that Jesus is the Sabbath day may sound nice, but it just isn't Biblical.
In fact, the thrust behind it is to express the idea that it isn't a literal day, but that it is merely spiritual. The danger in this is that it promotes a Christianity that has no basis in the word of God. You see, if we can just spiritualize everything then what do we need the Bible for? In other words, if we can just make up our own doctrines then what sense is there in studying the word of God? Do you see the problem here?

What are we after, the truth as it is disclosed in the Bible or nice ideas that tickle the ears?

Some people just don't get it! They don't see the danger that lies before their path.

To be honest, I cannot keep up with all the topics.

As you say some of it is "just outrageous!"

 

[seangoh]

Well, some of the threads on CF is discouraging. The Sabbath issue has been a constant debate and to me i'm almost bored of getting into it. I'd rather talk about other topics for a change. It's hard to present the Sabbath concept to people even though we can see it as such a simple idea. Beats me too..

 

[seangoh]

Well, some of the threads on CF are discouraging. The Sabbath issue has been a constant debate and to me i'm almost bored of getting into it. I'd rather talk about other topics for a change. It's hard to present the Sabbath concept to people even though we can see it as such a simple idea. Beats me too..

 

[Jesus Is Real]

woobadooba,

You are so right. I think it is because so many people who say they follow Jesus do not read and study the Bible for themself. They are too busy with work, movies, recreation, TV -- almost anything except Bible study.

Jesus said, "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." (Matthew 7: 13,14).

Doesn't the Bible also say that many in the last days will follow doctrine that tickles the ear? It sounds so good and comfortable -- and leads to destruction.

midnightcry,

For it's War and many are to still enter in, who have exited Egypt from Moses having led them out by The "I AM." This is a Trumpet Sounding to War Spiritually!!! Your username speaks Volumes! Jesus Christ is Our Battle Cry, Our Tabernacle, Our Sabbath of Rest where we afflict our souls....it's all about Him! And through Him we Worship God.This Cry has to be so, so that the Simeons will help the Judah's so that the whole Land can have God's Nature and Character placed in the land. There is not much laying down on the job, when you have truly been Employed by The Master - Christ Jesus Our Lord. I bless you for your keen insight and the verses your quoted was SUPERB!!! It was so right on target!~Ps. 24 ~Connie

 

[woobadooba]

Edited because I wasn't being nice.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Connie, I find it to be very interesting that you would even want to fellowship with us SDAs in our forum after all of the mean things you said about us

Are you here because you want to track my posts down, or because you really want to get to know us better?

Are you going to keep on accusing me?
Please stop this. I forgive you.

Just because I consider myself into Idoltry when I was a Calvinist,.....and so I was and it is and was an Idol in my own heart. Each of us who see the Law must examine ourselves in comparison to The Holy Lamb of God.

My poem:

5 Days To Examine

If we don't examine closely
The lambs at the appointed times;
The blood that we shed
Will only show our crimes.

Passover then won't happen
And this would be a shame;
Showing how we're living
Having never confessed His Name.

But we must look closely
If Passover is to be;
In God saving a people
As evil as you and me. (Luke 11:13)

So don't fear little ones
In looking deeplying these 5 - days;
You might find out Gods teaching you
His Precious and Holy - Righteous Ways. -cl

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Edited because I wasn't being nice.

So, learn to Separate yourself from that.....it's not you doing it: Rom. 7:23

Thus you are not condemned!!! Rom. 8:1

Your His Child,....when your being led by His Spirit: Rom. 8:13-14

I know you can hear this....in time.

So,....I know Who My Perfection is: He's Christ Jesus Our Lord.
God through Christ Jesus Is the Sabbath Day Perfection. And He calls us to Be Perfect!

Though it is a patient walk,...I must admit! *chuckle
So you might say I am a SDA,.....but God's Way: And Jesus Is The Way to the Father.
I am a Jew unto the Jews, and still as Unto the Lord that that I might be partakes with them in all Godly things pertaining to the Gospel's sake.
I am a even a Lutheran unto the Lutheran's as well, yet still as Unto the Lord.
and A Calvinist.......
A Sinner.......
A Saint.......
A Fool.......
Weak.....
A Priest....
Yet Temperate in all things.....
Lowly and meek.......and all without any contradiction as it's unto The Lord for the Gospel's Sake.

~something~ like that~ *chuckle

Peace, Connie

 

[woobadooba]

Are you going to keep on accusing me?
Please stop this. I forgive you.

Connie, why do you speak as though you are innocent?

You know what you said to me about the SDA church in one of the threads that we were involved in. In fact, I'm sure that some of the people in here saw what I'm talking about.

You can deny that you said bad things about us all you want, but God knows what you really said.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Connie, why do you speak as though you are innocent?

You know what you said to me about the SDA church in one of the threads that we were involved in. In fact, I'm sure that some of the people in here saw what I'm talking about.

You can deny that you said bad things about us all you want, but God knows what you really said.

Read the post again then. ((I'm looking for it too))
Ok it's here: The first thread page 92,..for starters and when you read it heart my heart.

Or just move on in peace sister.
Listen with your heart.....
I was too saying that I had idolatry in my heart when ever I was involved with being a Calvinist. See, Woo....I was saying that it's about our hearts,....the outward Structions (be it what ever title you call yourself or I call myself) take hold of our hearts and we begin to have more faith in our doctrines than in God who wants to wash us clean from the things in our hearts. It was the Idols on my own heart land, that when I acted upon them, that proved I was into Idolatry. It wasn't so much what I was into but what I had made an idol of, proving that there was an Idol on my heart that separated me from God - it was sin unto me and is sin. It's not a bad word to say to others, especially Christian's. Since we are to be on our guard about so many beseting sins that can intice us.....we are inticed ~to sin~ because it's bears witness with what's already on our hearts - lust....which is a Idolatry. I was also admitting my own heart if you will re-read my posts, Wooba.

See now.
Sorry if you misunderstood me.

If it helps you....maybe you can open up a new thread and we can talk about it.

Bless you as you Seek the Lamb this Season!
Connie

 

[woobadooba]

Read the post again then.
Or just move on in peace sister.
Listen with your heart.....
I was too saying that I had idolatry in my heart when ever I was involved with being a Calvinist. See, Woo....I was saying that it's about our hearts,....the outward Structions (be it what ever title you call yourself or I call myself) take hold of our hearts and we begin to have more faith in our doctrines than in God who wants to wash us clean from the things in our hearts.

See now.
Sorry if you misunderstood me.

Bless you as you Seek the Lamb this Season!
Connie

Connie, I don't believe I misunderstood you. I admit, I did misunderstand you on the issue with Windmill, but not on this one.

And I can't go back and read what you originally said since you edited your posts.

Like I said, God knows what you really said.

But at this point I think we should just put this to rest, since it is not edifying.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Connie, I don't believe I misunderstood you. I admit, I did misunderstand you on the issue with Windmill, but not on this one.

And I can't go back and read what you originally said since you edited your posts. It's page 98:

Like I said, God knows what you really said.

But at this point I think we should just put this to rest, since it is not edifying.

That's is the Point!
Thanks.
Connie

If you please....
If you want to know what I said.......again.....you quoted it on your post....and then you wanted me to edit it so I did....they are both still in the thread. You missunderstood that I was saying that you weren't saved by saying to you to come and enter in with the Body and Rest with us. Hear the whole meaning not just what you seem to hear. This is what most doctrines of men do.....they program us to only hear in part to cause deafness.

If you want to keep saying that God knows that I was somehow trying to hurt you then, have it. But for the 4th or so time that is NOT was I was saying. Quote me in the future as the Forum says and it will go well with you and in your heart...rather than assuming people are saying (in between the lines) what others aren't. Ok my friend? Thanks. And bless you as you seek Him,,...He is your Father.

And again.......as I had said.......please forgive me if I have harmed you in thinkiing things that I had not said but only that you assumed me to have said. If it hurt you,...please forgive me. But please re-read posts more closely before assuming things. Ok!

Help Line:
fyi:

And I can't go back and read what you originally said since you edited your posts.

Wooba,...it's page 98: in your post and it's not updated there. UN-UPDATED

Look below: FROM YOUR OWN POST:

I had first written this:
,.....
Woo....it takes a death on your part to enter in the Seveneth Day of God's Rest,....this is why Christ came that you might enter in through obedience of a child. This book I sent you will answer all your questions....if you have received my love offering box in the Joy that I too sent it.

So....enter in God's Rest with us! The Body of Christ is here,...while some still need to enter in. His Whole Body is welcomed Woo where you might truly find Rest. This is a Holy Word and it's good and it's righteousness, joy and peace in the Holy Ghost.

Come all you who labour and are weary (in your 6 days) and Jesus Our Lord will give you rest,... without cost: Only Believe and Obey with a child-like faith. And He will receive us all into His Joy!!! His Joy is your Strength!!!

If you have found rest for your Soul in Christ Woo.....then you have peace and it doesn't really matter if I don't see it. But if you have Rest in Christ then have ~it~ precious one.
If you don't have Rest in Christ, in your heart, (and I know you don't and I so care about you but in peace and Joy towards you).....then talk with someone about your struggles (maybe a Pastor or Counselor or a friend) and receive the love others have to give you. And we can move on.

Moving on still now according to your word,
Connie

Sorry,.......Updated:

 

[Jesus Is Real]

PLEASE FORGIVE ME WOOBA IF I HURT YOUR FEELINGS.
FORGIVE ME, I ASK.

God bless you,
Connie

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Wooba,

~Just to show myself that I do care for you and am a friend to you~

I'll ask you then with a listening ear:
How did you become a SDA?
And is it bringing you The Lord's Joy in every step of your life?

Listening!
I'll be sending out more boxes to friends so I'll be out some and will return later to sit down and hear you and your heart.

bless you,
connie

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Connie, why do you speak as though you are innocent?

You know what you said to me about the SDA church in one of the threads that we were involved in. In fact, I'm sure that some of the people in here saw what I'm talking about.

You can deny that you said bad things about us all you want, but God knows what you really said.

Forgive me for hurting you.
If I hurt you I was wrong for this.
Please can we now, move on as you had already said too. I quoted in this thread (Today 12:56 PM) what I wrote about SDA.....I too consider myself SDA but most likely not like you. Just hear my heart....I'm sorry again if it hurt you of what I had said about SDA. And if I was Baptist I'm sure I could admit to some Idol's in my heart as being a Baptist too. Like I said it all goes back to the heart Wooba. Hear the heart of the message I said. Even in Deliverance Ministries which is close to my heart I'm sure I have Idols in my heart as being in the Deliverance Ministry too. It's not the Structure that is wrong - they are just buildings with paper and chairs and such but it's about the condition of our hearts. If my own idolatry hurt you forgive me. For most of us sin without even knowing it. If I did....then forgive me please. You've sinned against me and I have no accusation against you....but you seem to hold on to your hurts that others cause you - this is a hurt (in not forgiving them) that you are adding to it upon yourself. I hope me asking for many times now to please forgive me is helping you. I'll keep on asking you to fogive me if that is what it takes for you to see that even a friend wounds us but that doesn't mean we stop being friends, especially if it's not intentional. I'm sorry I don't agree with the way you see SDA as I do and to me it's ok. We can still love each other in Christ, right? Bless you ~Connie


~anyway~
Wooba.......have you ever heard of "Jack Frost" my mom gave me some tapes of his called "Restoring the Father's Love" interested?

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Opps........on my last post,....I thought that I hadn't answered you back on your post. Sorry for the dup reply~ Going to the Post office now~ Take Care, connie

Boy I have a lot of posts here.......forgive me again Wooba!

 

[woobadooba]

Forgive me for hurting you.
If I hurt you I was wrong for this.
Please can we now, move on as you had already said too. I quoted in this thread (Today 12:56 PM) what I wrote about SDA.....I too consider myself SDA but most likely not like you. Just hear my heart....I'm sorry again if it hurt you of what I had said about SDA. And if I was Baptist I'm sure I could admit to some Idol's in my heart as being a Baptist too. Like I said it all goes back to the heart Wooba. Hear the heart of the message I said. Even in Deliverance Ministries which is close to my heart I'm sure I have Idols in my heart as being in the Deliverance Ministry too. It's not the Structure that is wrong - they are just buildings with paper and chairs and such but it's about the condition of our hearts. If my own idolatry hurt you forgive me. For most of us sin without even knowing it. If I did....then forgive me please. You've sinned against me and I have no accusation against you....but you seem to hold on to your hurts that others cause you - this is a hurt (in not forgiving them) that you are adding to it upon yourself. I hope me asking for many times now to please forgive me is helping you. I'll keep on asking you to fogive me if that is what it takes for you to see that even a friend wounds us but that doesn't mean we stop being friends, especially if it's not intentional. I'm sorry I don't agree with the way you see SDA as I do and to me it's ok. We can still love each other in Christ, right? Bless you ~Connie


~anyway~
Wooba.......have you ever heard of "Jack Frost" my mom gave me some tapes of his called "Restoring the Father's Love" interested?

Connie, how else am I to interpret this statement:

So....enter in God's Rest with us! The Body of Christ is here,...while some still need to enter in. His Whole Body is welcomed Woo where you might truly find Rest. This is a Holy Word and it's good and it's righteousness, joy and peace in the Holy Ghost.

The implication that I haven't entered into the body of Christ is very evident in the statement above.

But truthfully, maybe I haven't. Maybe I'm just lost.

In any case, it's time to put this away.

I forgive you.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Thank You.



___
Wooba, I do care about your concerns,....we all have had them at times.
Your going through ~normal~ stages of things regarding God, I preceive.
Nebakenezar had dreams of what was on his heart already and so it came to pass.
I don't preceive this to be what's happening with you,.....
All I know is that what I was to say to you was not to ~ever~ saying that you have
Lost your Salvation. Your just going through some tides, upon your heart - this is not
a sin, Wooba. It's common. If you have read any of my story in my blogs you'll see that
I too have gone through some tides regarding my son being kidnapped from my own bossom.
And boy did I want to be that "Momma Bear" and tear a head off,.....but God said to me, "No
it's time to clean your heart" when I would wake up and saying, "Father it's time to fight!!!"
I was missing my little boy (3 1/2 years) sooooooooo much. He's 19 now and still God's healing
me, a little at a time. And he's slowly restoring me and my son back together,....but I'm still
wading through more tides in my own heart. I want my son to know Jesus,.....and I want him
to know he's Saved (as a young child he knew Jesus because his mama changed after being Shakened and Quackened Awake back them by The Lord),.........so I would never want to communicate the opposite to any. It's not my calling to do so. But I know the way I speak is very lacking at times. Thanks for correcting me,....you haven't been the first to correct me but you have been the only one who has come out and said that they forgive me. So again Thank you for forgiving me if it even seemed like I was saying that you werern't saved. I don't know you that well to preceive this about you. But I do know that you are Loved and you can hear and you can see Love when you keep looking more closely and just yield to Him even more regarding what ever is really going on in your life. Hey I'm personally working through things myself too. Like being more and more addicted to this CF.

If you ever wish for me to speak with you regarding your post,.....just PM me if you like.
I suppose, I can try to put

what I have said into different words with the same meaning.
It seems that CF streches us on manners like this, which is decent.

May The Lord Richly bless you,
Connie
((I just thinks those icon are too cute!....yeah my folly at times~))